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E-Bomb: The Electronic Weapon That Can Make a Plane “Disappear”
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| 3/11/14
| Mac Slavo
Posted on 03/11/2014 4:58:32 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: fso301
‘How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?’
So multiple cars parked near the test site of a EMP weapon electrical systems all failed at the sametime and the EMP weapon had nothing to do with it?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:30:06 PM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Kartographer
They have plans how to make one of these on the internet - hardest part to find is the REALLY BIG capacitor you need ...
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:35:38 PM PDT
by
11th_VA
(I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
To: fso301
If the alternator for a `68 Ford is unaffected by EMP, why should the alternator from say a `93 Pontiac have problems? It's a coil, a magnet and a voltage regulator.
I don't know for certain, but I believe most modern alternators are controlled by a pulse width modulated signal from the engine computer. I would assume there's a module on the alternator that has to decode the signal and convert it to actual voltage changes in the unit itself. Perhaps that module is where the vulnerability lies.
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:36:05 PM PDT
by
chrisser
(Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
To: vigilante2
Are you a welder? I've struck a few arcs. Next time you are near a muffler or body shop, stop in, tell them you are researching EMP and ask if a welder properly grounded to the vehicle is likely to damage it?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:37:50 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: Kartographer
The cage is built to keep EMP out, but what if the EMP originates from inside the cage?Then I suppose everyone inside would be fried, but those outside the cage (outside of the airplane) would be fine. That is, if they were far enough away to avoid the explosion that produced the EMP!
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:38:57 PM PDT
by
zipper
("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
To: chrisser
I don't know for certain, but I believe most modern alternators are controlled by a pulse width modulated signal from the engine computer. I would assume there's a module on the alternator that has to decode the signal and convert it to actual voltage changes in the unit itself. Perhaps that module is where the vulnerability lies. Isn't anything near an alternator in a harsh electrical environment?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:39:43 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: zipper
And the fly by wire components on the inside of the plane would be?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:40:31 PM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: Kartographer
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:41:54 PM PDT
by
Hugin
To: Rodamala
You would have to have the old time mechanical injectors, otherwise your fuel system would quit working.
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:45:11 PM PDT
by
pallis
To: Kartographer
Or maybe...just maybe Malaysia f***ing Airlines didn’t properly maintain an incredibly complex aircraft and it failed the way incredibly complex systems do when neglected.
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:52:01 PM PDT
by
Orangedog
(An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
To: 11th_VA
They have plans how to make one of these on the internet - hardest part to find is the REALLY BIG capacitor you need ...
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:52:30 PM PDT
by
Bratch
To: fso301
Before I retired, I was involved in lines of heavy manufacturing machinery, all with their own computers and all connected with conveyors. A main computer was linked to the computers on each machine and kept track of what they were doing.
Early in the development of these systems, before we learned better, we had a local welder make a change on one of the conveyors, which also was controlled by one of the computers.
We zapped the main computer.
I drive a Ford F350 and regularly pull a horse trailer.
Every time I need welding on the trailer, the welders completely disconnect the trailer from the truck and I mean completely; wiring, hitch, all of it.
Welding anything connected to a computer is not wise.
To: clee1
So do you shunt or open the spare module for your engine, so the spare doesn’t get fried at the same time?
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:56:26 PM PDT
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: Orangedog
Also possible, but I lean toward Post #26 this thread. Malaysia may heve been forced to shoot down the plane.
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:56:49 PM PDT
by
Kartographer
("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
To: fso301
I don’t need to. A smart welder will disconnect the battery!
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:57:06 PM PDT
by
vigilante2
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posted on
03/11/2014 5:59:13 PM PDT
by
LonePalm
(Commander and Chef)
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To: old curmudgeon
Early in the development of these systems, before we learned better, we had a local welder make a change on one of the conveyors, which also was controlled by one of the computers. We zapped the main computer.Similar stories abound.
I drive a Ford F350 and regularly pull a horse trailer.
Every time I need welding on the trailer, the welders completely disconnect the trailer from the truck and I mean completely; wiring, hitch, all of it.
Nothing wrong with that for your own vehicle. I'd do the same. However, I think you will find that car repair guys generally make sure they have a good ground close to where they strike the arc and let it go at that.
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posted on
03/11/2014 6:08:20 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: vigilante2
Stop by a muffler shop sometime and watch.
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posted on
03/11/2014 6:09:14 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: clee1
Some have suggested a defunct microwave oven as a good option for safe parts storage. I'd pull the old electrical components out and ground the case, but that's just me. (You might just find that there's a bad cap on the board and get it back up for a buck or two.)
As for vehicles, pre mid-'80s without computer controlled fuel injection. Spare loaded distributor, plugs, wires, coil, starter, alternator, and battery. Toss in a spool of wire and a box of connectors. Takes a lot of old microwaves to store all that stuff. :)
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posted on
03/11/2014 6:19:32 PM PDT
by
kitchen
(Even the walls have ears.)
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