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Game Changer: It Will Be Shocking for the Average American: “Your Cost of Living Will Quadruple”
SHTF Plan ^ | 3/9/14 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 03/09/2014 4:46:47 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: B4Ranch

“My wife tells me she bought some last year and they dried out. How would you keep them moist? In a sealed container?”

Were they the Equate Wipes or some other brand? They are supposed to stay sealed until used.

Mine have been stored for months, maybe a year actually, and tomorrow (actually that would be today as it’s past midnight here), I’ll check mine and see if the wetness is still there. If it isn’t, I won’t freak out because I can add the wetness when I would use one in an emergency situation. I’d probably put water in a spray bottle so I could make one wet easily. (Note to self: buy another spray bottle.)


81 posted on 03/09/2014 10:45:57 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: All

There’s probably no diplomatic way of saying this, so I’ll just say it, because some others may be wondering the same thing.

It’s troubling to not know how to objectively sort out these types of warnings because the sources may have vested interests. Or they may not. And people become jaded with repeated episodes of a boy crying wolf. Not all of the predictions of runaway inflation or other economic horrors come from people selling something, but a lot do. Same with other dire predictions. I heard these predictions of hyperinflation on Glenn Beck 2 or 3 years ago. He had it from a reliable source(which of course he couldn’t name) that it was “right around the corner.” Still hasn’t happened. I realize that being prepared to a certain extent is good in case of natural disasters, severe weather, etc. But you can see why people might be skeptical.


82 posted on 03/10/2014 12:35:10 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: Kartographer

Sorry but that does not jive with reality. In every SHTF scenario (real-life, not imagined) people who had a store of gold off were much better off than those without.

Look no further than recent events in Argentina when their currency plummeted.


83 posted on 03/10/2014 3:01:42 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kartographer

Why are you giving me the exception rather than the rule?

Some drowned trying to save their gold? Perhaps one or two did, but tens of millions did not.

Sorry but that was a ludicrous post.


84 posted on 03/10/2014 3:04:08 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Old Sarge

If those women had gold, guess what, they would not have been selling their bodies for food.


85 posted on 03/10/2014 3:05:28 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Texicanus
BTW, does the IRS accept credit cards?

Yes, via their authorized e-filing services.

86 posted on 03/10/2014 3:11:13 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Marcella

I never said it was an either or situation. In fact, I said the opposite. Others here are saying it was either or and you implied that too.


87 posted on 03/10/2014 3:12:48 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Texicanus; Red in Blue PA
If the government doesn't call in the gold and make it illegal to own or as a medium of exchange.

They won't bother "calling it in" since they don't know the number. But they will make it illegal to sell or trade except to the governbent. But here's the thing, the rest of the world is going to reject US dollars and will ask for gold. Therefore there will be middlemen who will risk profits and possibly their lives to get your gold to people who want and goods in return. Probably several layers of middlemen. No, you won't get the world spot price for your gold, but you will get a decent price.

88 posted on 03/10/2014 3:17:11 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Kartographer
No, gold and silver was not like second money, or second value during SHTF, it was not even worth like in normal times, and in most of the cases it was dangerous to have it a lot

my prior comment applies to you too. If you believe the whole world is going to go third world then you would be correct. But it is not and you are not. There will be pockets of supreme luxury even in this country and they will buy your gold (as a suitable discount of course).

89 posted on 03/10/2014 3:24:11 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: Texicanus

If the govt also makes guns illegal during a SHTF, I can assume that you are going to turn your in then?


90 posted on 03/10/2014 3:37:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You didn’t even read the Selco links. You are so wrapped around your gold fetish that you’ll never stop parroting the sales pitches.

You’re pathetic. Welcome to The List.


91 posted on 03/10/2014 4:52:46 AM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Old Sarge
I have no "gold fetish". I do however, know that gold has always been a store of value especially during times of SHTF.

I will not stick my head in the sand and say that isn't so.
92 posted on 03/10/2014 4:56:40 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Old Sarge; All

Conventional wisdom says that gold is a completely useless investment, a “barbarous relic” from a primitive and bygone age. It serves no financial purpose whatsoever.

I have some sympathy with that point of view.

But, there again, try telling that to someone in Buenos Aires.

I notice that the latest financial crisis in Argentina, and the collapse of its national currency, the peso, has sparked a new bull market in gold down south.

Any Argentine with some bullion buried in his backyard has seen its value rocket 25% this month alone in terms of pesos, according to data from FactSet. An ounce of bullion will now buy 10,000 pesos, a record high. That’s compared with fewer than 8,000 a month ago. Gold is proving to be a very good safe haven in the crisis.

And this, I should add, is using the “official” exchange rate for pesos. According to Reuters, in the back streets of Buenos Aires the national currency is now changing hands into foreign currency for as little as 60% of the official rate.

In the past five years, the value of gold has trebled when measured in pesos—again, using the official figures. In the black market it has risen further.

Many economists say inflation is now running at 25% a year in Argentina. According to the Troubled Currencies Project, a joint venture of the libertarian Cato Institute in Washington, D.C., and Johns Hopkins University, the real inflation rate is as high as 74%.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crisis-in-argentina-sparks-new-gold-rush-2014-01-29?siteid=yhoof2


93 posted on 03/10/2014 4:57:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA
You asked for one time in 6000 years that gold wasn't of value and I did and now you complain because did?
94 posted on 03/10/2014 5:04:59 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
You asked for one time in 6000 years that gold wasn't of value and I did and now you complain because did?

Huh? What year did gold have no value? I must have missed that.

I feel like I am posting in the Twilight Zone.
95 posted on 03/10/2014 5:08:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kartographer
should the debt ceiling fail to be increased, the fall-out would be “catastrophic” and last for generations

The is no less absurd for the number of times it is repeated.

Money systems collapse all the time. Richmond 1865, Berlin 1923 AND 1945, Tokyo 1945, Moscow 1991, and so on, and so on.

Each of these was up and running in less than 5 years (NOT "generations").

And, in our case, the collapse of the monetary system will also cause the fall of a corrupt and, effectively illegal regime. Its replacement with a constitutional government will speed recovery.

96 posted on 03/10/2014 5:10:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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97 posted on 03/10/2014 5:14:21 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: palmer

My prior comment was to you. I gave you a real world SHTF example and you didn’t like it. I could go on and give you more, but it wouldn’t matter would it? I’d be wasting my time and you would just get angrier than you are already.

So as the ‘Duke’ would say “I generally let a man do what he wants to do.”


98 posted on 03/10/2014 5:15:28 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am very sorry because i have to destroy some popular opinions on some things, but i just have to do that. When i said and keep saying “no rules” i mean that. You can not have something like ideal preparations, you can only try to have it (and then hungry man down the road still might shoot you with his antique hunting rifle for a bit of flour). survival fear

So again on bartering and gold and silver:

No, gold and silver was not like second money, or second value during SHTF, it was not even worth like in normal times, and in most of the cases it was dangerous to have it a lot (actually it was too dangerous to have anything in great amounts and let other people to know that) If you had for example 1000 gold coins, and let s say that one coin worth 150 USD in normal times, you could think that you are rich in shtf.

http://shtfschool.com/trading/on-buying-gold-silver-for-survival-preparedness/


99 posted on 03/10/2014 5:16:40 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
If things don’t get better you do not want to be stuck with gold

LOL! I will gladly take that risk.
100 posted on 03/10/2014 5:23:47 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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