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It’s Crazy: Why Do So Many Jews Support Abortion?
ClashDaily.com ^ | March 4, 2014 | Jerry Novick

Posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Most of the woman that support abortion are the one you wouldnt want to boink anyways ala Sandra Fluke


2 posted on 03/05/2014 6:37:28 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jewish self-loathing?


3 posted on 03/05/2014 6:38:06 PM PST by Boogieman
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For the same reason they support the rest of their liberalism?


4 posted on 03/05/2014 6:41:02 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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I think it goes back to jewish history and how they regarded the baby to not have a soul until the quickening. Having an abortion prior to that wasn’t considered “killing a soul”, and having an abortion after the quickening WAS killing a soul. The attitude persisted for 2 millenia and even caught on with nominally christian Europeans.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 6:45:24 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Consider this:

Lawrence Lader was born in 1919 to Jewish parents. In his early adulthood he was a supporter of Marxism. He, along with Betty Friedan and Bernard Nathanson, was one of the founders of the pro-abortion group NARAL. Betty Friedan described him as "the founding father of the abortion movement".

Lader, Nathanson, and Friedan were all Jews, though in fairness to Dr Nathanson it must be pointed out that later in his life he broke with the proDeath movement, became an ardent ProLifer, and converted to Catholicism. By then, though, the damage had been done by he and his colleagues.

6 posted on 03/05/2014 6:56:28 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The current demographic shift has collectivist/Liberal/Leftist Jews moving toward smaller percentages over the overall community. The numbers of politically/socially/economically conservative Jews, that tend to be traditional, observant, Orthodox, and Chassidic/Hareidi, are growing. This is occurring both in America and Israel.

Why?

Because the Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Humanist and other chiloni Jews aren’t having children hardly any children compared to the Orthodox and other observant Jews.

But what is causing Jews to gravitate toward Torah in greater numbers?

Since the early 1960s Jews who were not observant suddenly started showing up at Orthodox synagogues wanting to learn Torah. This happened in America and other parts of the globe simultaneously. It totally took the rabbis by surprise. Why? For 3,000 years Jews have been running away from God and Torah and as a result being scattered into every land. Suddenly the trend started changing that the Jewish prophets spoke of long ago.

Hosea 3:4-5 - “For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.”

Hosea 6:1 - “Come, let us return to the LORD. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds.”

Ezekiel 20:34 - “I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered — with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath.”

Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - “In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.”

Jeremiah 32:44 NIV - “Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares the LORD.”

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - “Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give them up!’ and to the south, `Do not hold them back.’ Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth...”

“... the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise.”

Psalm 107:2-3 NIV - “Let the redeemed of the LORD say this — those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south.

Zephaniah 3:8-10 KJV - “For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, [even] the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering”.

Isaiah 26:6 NIV - “In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.”

Isaiah 35:1-2 NIV - “The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy....”

So don’t fret about this temporary problem. 100 years from now the words Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Humanist and other such names won’t be used much except in the study of Jewish history.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 6:59:07 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Robwin

Abortion leader Nathanson wrote a good book on his transformation, so did the wild and hard, lesbian gal in Roe v Wade, when she became a pro-life Christian.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 7:01:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jewish Suicide Syndrome. Happens to some secularized Jews who no longer try to uphold any significant connection to their received religious faith in God. Rather, they substitute a secularized “let’s all get together and recast society to make it better” ethos — better in their best judgment .... recalling that “every way of a man is right in his own eyes...”

Some of them believe this is Judaism. It is not, of course, just as a purely “social justice gospel” is not Christianity. Both are modern, secularist substitutes for genuine faith in the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible.

But, they believe themselves. A lot. Just like when Nancy Pelosi gave the (previous) Pope a lecture about how righteous abortion0nDemand is...

Judaism allows for abortions only in limited instances.
The exact boundaries of what is allowed may vary somewhat from rabbi to rabbi or school of faith to school of faith within Judaism, but the basic principle is clearly taught: Choose Life.... Judaism allows for (one may argue, requires) abortion if necessary to save the life of the mother (because there are other human beings already dependent on her). Beyond that one area, some Jewish authorities would permit aborting severely malformed or disabled babies in the womb (the most debilitating conditions). Some Jewish authorities would not permit this.
There are few other areas of exception to the general rule against abortion in Judaism.

But again, there are some “Jews” who do not subscribe to the Biblical moral teachings ... just as there are some “Christians” or “Catholics” who do likewise.

It is very sad. Both that these people have, in reality, abandoned their received religious heritage... and because they often (ignorantly, or disingenuously) still claim to be Christians and Jews.

IMHO, they are not. Rather, they have chosen to follow another path. I also do not believe their path is one that will avail them in the end.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 7:06:00 PM PST by faithhopecharity (" uri)
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Is there are problem here?.........

10 posted on 03/05/2014 7:10:28 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

they would rather be popular than right


11 posted on 03/05/2014 7:13:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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they’re opposed to the Second Amendment as well.

of all the people on the planet you would think Jews would armed to the teeth considering the past.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 7:19:14 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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Many if not most Jews do not consider the baby to be a baby until after it is born. Until then it is an "entity." Apparently aborting "entities" is no big deal. Ironically, the same word the Palistinian Jihadis use to refer to Israel, the "Zionist entity."
13 posted on 03/05/2014 7:20:37 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Helps to keep the schvartzes under control.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 7:31:27 PM PST by Misterioso
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Many American Jews are not the same as Israeli Jews where Obama enjoys a 2% approval rating.
15 posted on 03/05/2014 7:35:27 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Most Jews are only ethnically Jewish and have rejected their God.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 7:35:50 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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jews don’t really mind non-jews aborting their kids. it’s a general statement given the majority of jews in america are liberal.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Oddly enough, I trace the roots of this far back, to Biblical times. The ancient Hebrews.

They were never very comfortable with worshiping just JHVH. He was too nebulous, difficult to grasp for many, so many Hebrews strayed to other gods, gods that were easy to understand. Gods that had idols and graven images.

Most importantly, these were “get rich quick” gods that promised tangible prosperity and wealth. With no further need for work. Welfare and food stamps gods.

And all you had to do to get all the free stuff was give your children as burnt offerings to Baal-Moloch.

And while the priests of JHVH fumed and threatened even death for this abomination, time and again Hebrews just could not resist.

Listen to what so many Jews say, even today, how they equate abortion with prosperity and wealth. How their hope for prosperity for all is twisted into equating wealth with death.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 7:40:29 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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Jewish law doesn’t equate a fetus with a human being.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 7:44:41 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Liberal Jews are far more likely to have just one kid if any and intermarry, which decreases the odds the next generation will be Jewish.

It is the conservative, traditional core that is still growing numerically. While it was a smaller percentage of the population 50 years ago, they’ll be a majority within a generation among the young.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 7:55:06 PM PST by tbw2
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