[raybbr]

The right is forced to accept the necessity of the welfare state and the left has to accept the police state.

Personally, I think the left craves the police state. Maybe not the rank and file left but certainly the leaders of the left do.

[GOPJ]

I think the left craves the police state.

You're right... Thugs among liberal elite are working at frightening government workers into fearing citizens. That's a first step in creating a police state.