[lbryce]

Certainly, none of us want to get any benefit regarding the moral, ethical principles that are indispensable to our very existence both physical and spiritual based on untruths and hoaxes. We've ceded such approaches, methodologies to the left-wing liberal sociopaths.

You've done a great service to the cause for getting to the bottom of it, for getting the truth out about the faked fetus, not only because it was a lie, but even more emphatically, we don't need to resort to duplicitous .sinister means to be victorious.

While the fact is, we need not rely on lies, hoaxes or conspiracies to claim any moral, ethical victories. Regarding morality, rectitude, we've always been on the side of the angels, on the side of God, always been.

[Wuli]

i have always felt that the worst argument for a good position is an argument that has to lie

the lie is discovered, the messenger who gives the argument looks either dumb, stupid or a phony

the lie causes many to NOT be persuaded by the argument

the cause of the good position is diminished

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people will believe something that is not true, if it fits with their pre-conceived notions about a matter

then they start passing untruths between each other, sharing them as prize truths

then they start looking like idiots

that is not what we need