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An explanation of liberal vs. conservative that settles which side deals in fantasy vs. reality
The Looking Spoon ^ | 1-31-14 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 01/31/2014 3:30:44 PM PST by The Looking Spoon

I can't imagine liberals would have a problem with this graphic. It describes to the letter their vision for the world and how totally unrealistic it truly is. 



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: conservative; liberal

1 posted on 01/31/2014 3:30:44 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon

And a Constitutionalist thinks everyone should compete under the same rules - as natural human persons, not corporations.


2 posted on 01/31/2014 3:36:11 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

A liberal will say that the only reason that we are not equal at the finish line is because we were not equal at the starting line. Some had advantages because they were white, male, or otherwise privileged. Not saying I agree, but that will be their response.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 3:37:44 PM PST by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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To: Talisker

Or unions, or bureaucracies eating from the private sector to fund their lifestyles of mainly useless endeavor.


4 posted on 01/31/2014 3:39:01 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Thurifer the Censer

No Kidding.

You know what Hayek says? That the only way to bring about equality in view of our individual differences is through governmental force.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 3:39:17 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: The Looking Spoon

I think that is well stated. :^)


6 posted on 01/31/2014 3:45:20 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: sgtyork

That goes by the technical term, “stealing.”


7 posted on 01/31/2014 3:45:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Or Tyranny.


8 posted on 01/31/2014 3:57:43 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
A liberal will say that the only reason that we are not equal at the finish line is because we were not equal at the starting line. Some had advantages because they were white, male, or otherwise privileged.

that is why it is better for conservatives to support freedom of opportunity rather than equality of opportunity.

9 posted on 01/31/2014 4:16:03 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Talisker

So if two natural human persons operate in concert (by forming a corporation) they should lose their protections under the constitution?

Each person has the right of free speech, but combined they lose their right of free speech? So a newspaper (presumed to be owned by a corporation) is not protected by the first amendment?

Now I might agree that an organization which extracts payment from a more or less captive segment of the population (read Labor Union) does not enjoy the same right of free speech as say the owners of the corporation and by extension the corporation itself.

Willing to go that far?


10 posted on 01/31/2014 4:22:25 PM PST by cousin01
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To: The Looking Spoon

Brilliant observation.


11 posted on 01/31/2014 4:45:08 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: cousin01
So if two natural human persons operate in concert (by forming a corporation) they should lose their protections under the constitution? Each person has the right of free speech, but combined they lose their right of free speech?

Hate to break this to you, but corporations already have no rights. They have privileges. The difference betwen the two is fundamental.

And your phrase, "working in concert," is also fundamental. Two people each have the right of free speech. But if they want to form a legal fiction called a corporation in order to escape liabilities for their joint actions, there is no way to do that. It's impossible. They are still two people who are responsible for their individual actions, working together or not, speaking in agreement, or not.

Oops, that's not true. Look, here;s the government swooping inm telling them that hey, all you have to do is pay us money, and let us tax you, and surrender your human rights, and we'll call you a corporation. That's a fake legal person, with no rights, created by government, answerable to government, owned by government as an individual profit center of the government. From then on, you become a de facto employee of the government, working (in whatever work you do) to generate tax income for the government. In return, according to the tax laws, the government will allow you to keep a portion of the 100% taxable income it can legally require of you at any time, and penalize you at any time for whatever it wants, with the legal understanding that the purpose of your privileges is the government's benefits - not yours.

Now, do you see anything at all about "rights" in that absolutely exact legal description of a corporation? No? Well you're wrong! That's right, you're wrong, because the government has declared that corporate privileges can be referred to as "rights," not in the sense of human rights or the Bill of Rights," but in the sense of a shortening of the full phrase "corporate rights," which are defined as a phrase which refers to the limited operational set of privileges accorded to corporations by the government, in the interests of the government.

There's your "rights."

12 posted on 01/31/2014 9:46:26 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Thurifer the Censer
A liberal will say that the only reason that we are not equal at the finish line is because we were not equal at the starting line. Some had advantages because they were white, male, or otherwise privileged. Not saying I agree, but that will be their response.

A liberal will say that not everyone stopped to take naps on the way to the finish line. Unfair.

13 posted on 01/31/2014 10:00:30 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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