Over the last several days, conservatives across social media have been circulating an image, a split screen cut and paste of Obama and Mohammed (Pak) Subud along with a link to a very well thought out piece from Jason Kissner at American Thinker.Posted on 01/27/2014 10:57:01 AM PST by onyx
Over the last several days, conservatives across social media have been circulating an image, a split screen cut and paste of Obama and Mohammed (Pak) Subud along with a link to a very well thought out piece from Jason Kissner at American Thinker.
That piece brings several…”Coincidences” to light.
When it comes to politics and Obama’s past, there are no such things as “coincidences.”
Kissner shows links between Obama’s “mother” Stanley Ann Dunham to a certain Subud spiritual cult and also documents the verifiable link between the Subud cult and one Loretta Fuddy.
Fuddy, you will remember, was the woman who had been appointed in January, 2011, to head the agency in Hawaii that “verified” Obama’s birth certificate…The one he finally, after years of questions, displayed to the world in March of 2011.
Fuddy also was the lone non-survivor of a small plane crash off the coast of Hawaii just a couple of months ago.
No coincidences…Remember?
The idea being promoted is that this Mohammad Subud, the founder of the Subud cult, is Obama’s real father but, before we get to that, there IS something regarding that split-screen image you should know.
It is a composite.
According to Adrien Nash who wrote an article yesterday, “I copied and reversed Subud’s eye and replaced Obama’s which was squinting.”
A composite/split-screen that makes the 2 look more like each other than they otherwise might is not only the wrong way to highlight the visual similarities but, it is completely unnecessary.
The speculation is and, let’s remember, when it comes to Obama’s past we MUST speculate as his official past has been completely buried, that this Subud fathered the man we know as Barack Hussein Obama.
For the speculation to be true, one must assume that in 1960, Subud and Stanley Ann Dunham met, somewhere, and he, got her, pregnant thus leading to a child who would, after several name changes…Barack Hussein Obama, Barack Obama, Barry Obama, Steven Dunham , Barry Soetoro and the name first noticed back in 2011 regarding an application for a passport extension filed by 
Stanley Ann Soetoro in 1968.
THAT name was found in the section for either including or exempting a child’s name from the passport and the name she placed THERE before crossing it out was, Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)
Soebarkah, is has been suggested, is a combination name Soe (from Soetoro, Obama’s “adoptive” father) Bar (from the Islamic Aramic meaning, SON) and Kah (which roughly translates from Indonesian as “was” or, in some cases, in names is used to denote a QUESTION regarding “WHO?”)
It has also been suggested “Soebarkah” was a name provided by the Subud cult as Loretta Fuddy went by the Subud name of “Deliana” Fuddy.
Either way, it does nothing to either verify or debunk Pak Subud as being Obama’s real father.
What I am about to propose is speculation and, at first glance, seems pretty far out there but, upon consideration, may well be plausible.
There is a theory that Dunham traveled to Kenya in 1961 and it has been said that the reason for that trip was to give birth to her child and leave that child with the Obama family.
Then there is the theory that Dunham gave birth in Hawaii.
Which is true? Simply, there is no verifiable evidence for either theory but…The Kenyan birth would answer those swirling questions regarding those IN Kenya, including his grandmother, who claim to have been there FOR the birth and the claims of Kenyan officials who say that Obama was born in Kenya.
Those in the Dunham family who wanted an AMERICAN son could have simply written the announcement that appeared in the Hawaiian newspaper as there was never any verification or proof of birth needed to run such an announcement whether or not he was born THERE and simply returned FROM Kenya with Dunham-Obama.
Could she have returned to Hawaii with the son because the Kenyan Obama clan refused to take him?
In 1965 or so…Stanley Ann Dunham then traveled to Indonesia…With her son, where she was hired to start an English language, business communications department and, where SHE recruited and hired several teachers who were MEMBERS OF SUBUD.
No Coincidences…Remember?
Consider this scenario…
At some point before traveling to Indonesia, she met and was impregnated BY…Subud…NOT by Obama Sr. which would explain why Obama Sr. was never a part of Obama JR.’s life.
Could Subud had fathered a child (Soebarkah) by someone other than his wife?
Subud, before his “spiritual epiphany” was a Muslim and we are all aware of the monogamous fidelity of that ideology not to mention the dubious history of such strength of character in cult leaders…Especially in those who feel kinship with the Almighty.
What to do?
Since the teenage Dunham was sexually promiscuous anyway…Simply claim the child wasn’t HIS and she would then assume it belonged to someone ELSE…In this case…Obama Sr.
However, several years later, Dunham-Obama would have had to notice that her son looked nothing like the man she THOUGHT was the father and, the OTHER man she knew she had been with at the same time was…Subud…Living in Indonesia.
Is there any better explanation for why this young woman, with no ties to that country, would go to live there?
That would also explain how Barack Hussein Obama, adopted IN Indonesia by the INDONESIAN LOLO SOETORO, was able to attend school IN Indonesia as his records indicated, with Indonesian citizenship.
He was Indonesian all along.
It would also account for the attempted name inclusion on the passport extension application with Soebarkah, in parentheses, then crossed out.
Such a theory, speculative, as we must speculate where no verifiable evidence is available, also would go a long ways toward covering the whole fraudulent birth certificate issue as a child, born in Kenya, would not HAVE a Hawaiian birth certificate and who better to “authenticate” the forged certificate that Loretta…”DELIANA” Fuddy…A woman who WAS the CHAIRWOMAN OF SUBUD USA FROM 2006 UNTIL 2008 IN SEATTLE???
A woman who may…MAY…Have known the TRUTH regarding the “son” of Stanley Ann Dunham-Obama-Soetoro.
Was the Obama we know today…REALLY FATHERED BY AN INDONESIAN, FORMER MUSLIM AND FOUNDER OF A SPIRITUAL CULT??
QUITE POSSIBLY BORN IN KENYA…TO A MOTHER TOO YOUNG TO LEGALLY TRANSFER U.S. CITIZENSHIP???
WHO ATTENDED SCHOOL IN INDONESIA AS AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN WITH NO RECORD OF EVER BECOMING A UNITED STATES CITIZEN????
Well…That is exactly what those who took Obama from a Community Organizer to the white house clearly wouldn’t want known.
Isn’t it?
By spending millions of dollars, a mere pittance to the people who buried his past, they found a man who held no underlying allegiance to the United States and a man whose ideology was the same as their own.
In order to “fundamentally transform” the United States…They needed a SOCIALIST…NOT an AMERICAN who would become their willing puppet, doing what he was told, reading from their teleprompter text, a Muslim who would befriend our enemies while turning his back on our allies.
And Obama himself must have known all along as all the records pertaining to his past would not have been buried without his knowledge.
Who paid for his pricey Ivy League education? Saudis with no connection to him or the wealthy Indonesian leader of a spiritual movement who DIDN’T want to be connected to him, as hush payments?
Obama has never been conflicted because he was half WHITE…He, as a young man, was conflicted because he WASN’T half BLACK as, being BLACK in America during those college years would clearly have afforded Obama some entitlements.
And while, in this day and age, it can never be said for certain that pictures don’t lie but…They have and always will say 1000 words.
Now you tell me…Who is more likely to be the father of the current occupant of the oval office…
Barack Obama SR?
Or…
Mohammed (Pak) Subud???
Hey…Barack Hussein Obama…Barack Obama…Barry Obama…Steven Dunham…Barry Soetoro…Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah)…
Who’s your daddy now???
It's been around for quite a while, back to July 2008, I think:
I CAN imagine how it must have affected you, I went through a dreadful time, foolishly thinking it matters. After a while, you realise it doesn’t matter at all. Take it in good spirit, they harm themselves more than they do you.
I think the crazy weird speculative theories are put forward by Zero’s team to lead people off the scent. After the Gilbert movie (am I remember his name right?), I am sure of it.
Btw, I just looked in the mirror and I’ve got me some jowls too, so how do we get rid of them?
It doesn’t matter Fred and your right.In my case it was slander and to clear my good name I asked a retraction in that person’s freepmail to all the souls that read this.I can honestly say I respond to people directly.Never talk behind their backs and if I report you I tell you.:)There is so much passion in this subject .
A lot of homosexuals have children, especially those who are attempting to hide their orientation. They just aren’t good at sustaining a sexual relationship with a woman over the long haul.
Well I was just responding to the limp post.He had 6 kids.
I’m not clear on your point?
You’ve got to be reading my mind. They know how impressionable people are in general, and have a merry time playing around with us. This time, I feel somewhat responsible. Who was it posted the first mention of Subud on FR after someone sent me the letter from their Seattle office?
Moi did.
Who posted the first photograph of Pak Subud on FR?
Moi did.
The POST December 31:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?q=1&;page=1#1
The excerpt from Subud Letter:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=62#62
The photograph of Pak Subuh:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=104#104
It only took three comments later for someone to pop up and say he looks like zero:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=108#108
It would have happened anyway. But it was just too good for them to pass up, wasn’t it? Takes the heat off what’s really going on, allows them to say ‘look at what the whackos are up to now!’
And why does it happen at all? Because deep inside, even those who maintain they hate and despise conspiracy theories, know very well they do not know who he is or where he came from.
Then Corsi picked it up and off it went, like a firecracker. So now we know where HE gets his ‘news’ from.
I have formed the habit of not addressing you because you can be somewhat deliberately ambiguous and just plain not very nice to communicate with, but what fatima is trying to tell you is that MX had six children.
Officially that is.
No matter how you try to paint the man a homosexual, in modern terms his past just might indicate he was open to a number of opportunities, and that might have made him bi-sexual. Not fussy, get what I mean?
“I have formed the habit of not addressing you”
That is a very good habit. I encourage it.
“I guess that blows the Malcolm Conspiracy”
There’s also the question of sexual orientation. Do a search on ‘Was Malcolm X gay?’. His homosexual activities started young and intensified. He carried on one homosexual relationship for a decade. His wife complained [bitterly] that he couldn’t satisfy her. He became impotent in her presence—an issue never reported re: his manifold homosexual liaisons.”
You said he was limp in her presence and he had 6 kids.
She, Malcolm X’s wife, said he was limp in her presence. She’s the only one who cd make such a claim, as she and X were the only two privy to it. I only mentioned her complaint.
Malcolm X proposed on a telephone call from Detroit in January 1958, and they married two days later.[60][61] They had six daughters: Attallah (b. 1958, named for Attila the Hun);[62][63] Qubilah (b. 1960, named for Kublai Khan);[64] Ilyasah (b. 1962, named for Elijah Muhammad);[65] Gamilah Lumumba (b. 1964, named for Patrice Lumumba);[66] and twins Malikah and Malaak (b. 1965 after their father’s death, and named for him).[67]
http://www.nathanielturner.com/malcolmxletter.htm
Read his four page letter to Elijah Mohammad, it deals with his marriage difficulties.
Considering how much time he spent overseas he did well.
If you reread my post, you’ll see I said that Obama’s unusual raised vertical line on his upper lip was shared with Frank Marshall Davis. I did not say that I thought that Obama looked like FMD aside from that, that lip thing is unusual and seems an inherited trait, not an injury. Unless the woman who gave birth to him or a grandparent also had that unusual characteristic, that would have come from his dad, whoever that was. Obama senior seems out of the question. Malcolm X shared his stature and they have a strong resemblance. Now that the guru from Indonesia has been thrown into the mix, one begins to stagger from staring at the features of these faces for so long. Today it’s so easy to find out who’s related to whom with DNA testing. If Obama does not share a lot of DNA with those other children of Obama Sr and with the other alleged relatives from Kenya, then the story of Obama Sr as Barack’s father come quickly to an end and connections with different sets of families begins.
K.He had 6 kids and I’m sure she didn’t get pregnant ever time they had sex so he must have been up for it once in awhile.
‘As evidence of his assertions, Marable includes a letter from Malcolm X to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, the leader of the Nation of Islam. In the letter, Malcolm mentions that he and his wife were “sexually incompatible” and that she’d threatened to “seek satisfaction elsewhere.”’
It is Malcolm X and Betty Shabazz who say they had trouble, not me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/malcolm-x-book-rattles-hi_b_846555.html
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