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To: mhutcheson

I couldn’t read the whole thing; I was becoming nauseous. What I take away from the first few paragraphs, though, is that if the south had not seceded and then fired on Ft. Sumpter and started a war, everything would be hunky-dory! They’d still have their “peculiar institution” and they’d all be as happy as a clam.....except for the blacks, of course.

Where has this genius BEEN all these years?! I spent 4 years in the U.S. Military, much of it with southern guys; and because of the type of work we did, nearly all of them had had some college before enlisting, and many of them were graduates; and I NEVER heard a one of them come off with ANY of the drivel THIS guy is spewing. There were frequent debates and latrine arguments among us GIs, but none of that “overtaxed” baloney or anything else ever came up.

I have read dozens of books on all aspects of the Civil War; and seen numerous movies, documentaries, etc. about it, and I don’t recall ever hearing this stuff. Where has all this information been buried all these years?


216 posted on 01/20/2014 6:19:15 PM PST by Tucker39 ("Having their conscience seared with a hot iron.")
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To: Tucker39

“I have read dozens of books on all aspects of the Civil War; and seen numerous movies, documentaries, etc. about it, and I don’t recall ever hearing this stuff. Where has all this information been buried all these years?”

Exactly my point; the genocide, the terrible war crimes, the imprisonment of editorial writers without trial, or even charge, is ignored by the film makers and historians. Now-—you sound like a reasonable person-—so I challenge you to refute a single fact laid out in my article. Do your own research. Come to see the light. Try the book mentioned in the essay, as well as “When In the Course of Human Events” by Adams, a northern historian (Rowman and Littlefield) and “The Real Lincoln” by DiLorenzo (Three Rivers Press).


220 posted on 01/20/2014 6:28:25 PM PST by mhutcheson (To all who have replied to "Confession")
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To: Tucker39
Let me get you started on your journey of enlightenment;

Maryland legislature arrested link.

224 posted on 01/20/2014 6:38:36 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39
Suspending the Great Writ Link

On April 27, 1861, President Lincoln, fearful that Southern troops might overtake the capital, suspended the writ of habeas corpus and declared martial law in Maryland. Shortly afterward, Union soldiers captured John Merryman, a cavalryman who had burned bridges and destroyed telegraph lines. Merryman challenged his military detention. On May 26, 1861, Chief Justice Roger Taney, sitting circuit, ruled that Lincoln had acted unconstitutionally — only Congress could suspend the Great Writ. Lincoln ignored the order and continued to seize and hold adversaries without a hearing. He did likewise in other states, such as Missouri. However, once order had been established in a county, Lincoln was inclined to release most of the prisoners on the condition that they pledge loyalty to the Union. The New York Tribune, a newspaper hostile to Lincoln, rejoiced: “the reign of lawless despotism has ended.” Of course, the practice of suspending the writ occurred again in 1862 and 1863. Insofar as all constitutional rights were suspended in such instances, all First Amendment rights were likewise suspended.

225 posted on 01/20/2014 6:43:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."

Abe Lincoln -- Racist and Hypocrite i.e. Typical 19th century politician.

He was against freeing the slaves before he was for it.

227 posted on 01/20/2014 6:49:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39
If all earthly power were given to me [...] my first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible."

Abe Lincoln - The "Great Emancipator" LOL

228 posted on 01/20/2014 6:52:46 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Tucker39

Major-General John A. Drx,

Commanding at New York:

Whereas there has been wickedly and traitorously printed and published this morning in the New York World and New York Journal of Commerce, newspapers printed and published in the city of New York, a false and spurious proclamation purporting to be signed by the President and to be countersigned by the Secretary of State, which publication is of a treasonable nature, designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States and to the rebels now at war against the Government and their aiders and abettors, you are therefore hereby commanded forthwith to arrest and imprison in any fort or military prison in your command the editors, proprietors, and publishers of the aforesaid newspapers, and all such persons as, after public notice has been given of the falsehood of said publication, print and publish the same with intent to give aid and comfort to the enemy; and you will hold the persons so arrested in close custody until they can be brought to trial before a military commission for their offense. You will also take possession by military force of the printing establishments of the New York World and Journal of Commerce, and hold the same until further orders, and prohibit any further publication therefrom.

A. LINCOLN.


229 posted on 01/20/2014 6:56:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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