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To: Bender2

The War of Northern Aggression is how I refer to what is commonly called our “Civil War”.

Lincoln would have given his left nut to have General Robert E. Lee as his lead general over that second-stringer, Ulysses S. Grant.

The bottom line is that our Constitution came under a devastating assault by President Lincoln and has not been the same ever since.

I have often wondered how things might be different today, had the Confederacy won that War.

The again, I also wonder where we would be if TODD BEAMER and his fellow passengers had just stayed in their seats on 11 September, 2001. Would we be saddled with Barak Hussein Obama living large in OUR White House today? Somehow, I think not. He would still be pushing his shit cart around the Windbag City, is my guess.


96 posted on 01/18/2014 5:09:24 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Howie66

Amd many southerners, General Lee included, foresaw the necessity for the end of the “peculiar institution” as a blot and a stain, not to mention being prescient in foreseeing future problems. What they fought for was something else entirely. General Lee had much anguish in making his decision to go home to Virginia, for that very reason. He seemed to have felt that in the big picture, a great principle, that of States’ Rights, required defense, before dealing with the blot. He was right-states lost their rights, but the victory of the North didn’t stop the US, in WWII, from interning Japanese Americans who had not been tried or convicted of treason. Bit the states have been steadily losing their rightful ground to the fed gov ever since.


98 posted on 01/18/2014 5:17:55 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Howie66; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Lincoln would have given his left nut to have General Robert E. Lee as his lead general over that second-stringer, Ulysses S. Grant.

No doubt Distant Cousin Bobby Lee would have done a bang up job had he accepted Lincoln's offer of Command of Union forces, however that is not to say Grant was a second-stringer.

The genius of Lee was how he managed to keep a war going when he was the far weaker of the two opposing forces. His innate knowledge of both tactics and strategy of mid-1800s warfare plus his knowing well the abilities, capabilities and weaknesses of his opposing numbers made the fear of 'What, oh God, what will Bobby Lee do!' a true terror in the hearts of Union commanders.

Grant took on Lee with the sure knowledge he had more troops, a continuing supply of them and an industrial base funneling more and more weapons and supplies opposed Lee dwindling number of men and material. He campaigned with constant, ruthless pressure on Lee as the most certain, quickest venue to defeat the Confederacy and win the war. As he said in a dispatch to Washington during the Battle of Spotsylvania Court House, "I propose to fight it out on this line, if it takes all summer." And he did. At Spotsylvania Court House, as he had at The Wilderness and future campaigns at Cold Harbor and Petersburg leading to Lee's surrender at Appomattox Court House.

Had Lee had the resources of Grant, he would have attacked the Union in the same relentless manner knowing full well that God is truly on the side with the biggest battalions and sure logistics. Lee would have aimed his superior number of troops and material directly at Washington D.C., taking it, bringing Maryland into the Confederacy and more or less ended the war on Southern terms.

Yes, this hypothetical on Lee is an opinion but it is an informed opinion backed up by some 50 year of reading on and studying the Civil War and I am not the only such amature or professional scholar to come to this conclusion.

Some folks on this thread may not like history, but what happened, happened and nothing short of a time machine can change it. To turn your back on what is past is to turn your back on what is to come. I pity the poor fools who do such for they have no useful future and all their senseless caterwauling adds nothing meaningful to the knowledge of man.

101 posted on 01/18/2014 5:59:46 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Howie66

Grant was actually a great General as was Sherman. We tamed the West with such men and the Confederates who fought with them.

The South was infected with the cancer that was slavery and she would not survive it, no matter how great her generals.

-—Great, great grandson of Felix Tankersley who fell at Appamatox fighting for the Southern Cause.


106 posted on 01/18/2014 6:23:46 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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