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Jacques de Molay goes to the stake
1 posted on 01/10/2014 5:14:26 AM PST by lbryce
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Get your armor out of storage and be on your way!


2 posted on 01/10/2014 5:17:32 AM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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So seven guys from France show up in Jerusalem, talk their way into posession of the temple mount, dig for a couple of years, then return to Europe to build a massive financial empire and revolutionize architecture.

What’s the mystery?


5 posted on 01/10/2014 5:30:35 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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This is an interesting read.

While leaving many unanswered questions, it provides insight to several areas of confusion.


7 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:39 AM PST by G Larry
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An interesting footnote is that though suppressed in France and disbanded in England and Scotland the Templars survived in Spain and Portugal. They were highly regarded for their aid in the “Reconquista”. They only changed their name to “The Order of Christ” They financed the voyages of Columbus and Vasco da Gama. The order survives in Spain to this day


8 posted on 01/10/2014 5:49:45 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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Everyone loves an anniversary, and this is going to be a big one. It will be exactly 700 years since the legendary Jacques de Molay, last Grand Master of the Templars, was strapped to a stake in Paris and bonfired alive. For centuries after de Molay’s execution in 1314, everyone wanted to sweep the ashes of the whole dreadful affair under the carpet. The official line was that the Templars, the former darlings of Christendom, had fallen from grace. Power had gone to their heads, and they had degenerated into something unspeakable (for a medieval order of monks, at any rate): spitting and urinating on crucifixes, worshiping idols, and finding sexual release with each other.

PFL

10 posted on 01/10/2014 5:52:04 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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According to the RLDS genealogy website, I’m descended from Phillip. So whenever something minor goes wrong, like we get the wrong order in a carry out (I got original recipe instead of grilled at KFC yesterday for example), its due to this curse. We call it the ancient pizza curse.


11 posted on 01/10/2014 6:08:35 AM PST by Mercat
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My uncle was a born-again Christian. When he became a 33rd degree Mason, something very bad in Freemasonry scared him, and he sort of dropped out. He has gone home to be with the Lord, and I have no idea or hint as to what frightened him.
He seemed to enjoy his Freemason membership prior to that
last step, encouraging me in my high school years to think about Demolay. (We had a very active chapter at my high school.) He would say, “Now I can’t ask you to join.” But you could tell that he had a fond wish that my Dad and I would get involved with Freemasonry. Not so in his last years.


12 posted on 01/10/2014 6:13:00 AM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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Templars’ chosen decorations for this particular chapel were not saints, bible scenes, and the usual range of religious imagery. The surviving frescoes are a bizarre collection of stars and wheels, rolling around the walls and ceiling in some mysterious, unfathomable pattern. Interspersed among them are also grids and chequer-boards, painted with equal precision – but also with no apparent sense or meaning. There is nothing remotely Christian about it.

Unitarians?

13 posted on 01/10/2014 6:13:10 AM PST by Oratam
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“Philip then spent the next few years getting his hands on the Templars’ vast wealth”

My read of the subject indicates he did give the castles to Knights Hospitalers but the “vast treasures” eluded him. Phillip was deeply in debt to the Templars and this zeroed out that debt. Motive? Yep. And Phillip's life did not end well either.

14 posted on 01/10/2014 6:17:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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BFL!


16 posted on 01/10/2014 6:34:54 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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Interesting read. Between the Sultan being allowed to pray in the al-Aqsa mosque, being able to talk their way into ownership of Temple Mount, the denial of Christ in the initiation, and the designs on the inside of their chapel as opposed to religious imagery (reminded me of the inside of a mosque sort of), could they have been an underground Muslim movement? Kind of like the Muslim equivalent of the Jesuits?


17 posted on 01/10/2014 6:40:06 AM PST by refreshed
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I’m sorry. I’m not very good at this conspiracy theory stuff.


18 posted on 01/10/2014 6:41:19 AM PST by refreshed
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Interesting article.

We visited an ancient castle in central France, Busseol Castle (google it) where the Knights Templar gathered for the trip to the Holy Land.

I love to visit castles and this one has to be the best and most intriguing. It is small enough that it would remind you of a house you could actually live in and it was furnished with ancient antiques. Built up on a pointed hill with a view in all directions.

It is open to the public but the care taker wanted us to hurry through so he could go to lunch or something. I could have spent all day (and night) there.

19 posted on 01/10/2014 6:42:55 AM PST by Ditter
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http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24518/24518-h/dvii.html#crusades

Here is a rather old (1852), less dramatic, probably more accurate account of the Crusades and the Templars.

They were the last crusaders to leave by ship the fortress known as Acre, at the end of the Crusades. Most of the Templars stayed and died at the hands of the Muslim conquerors.

20 posted on 01/10/2014 6:43:11 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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There is evidence that after the suppression of the Templars in France on Friday October 13, 1307, many escaped Phillip’s grasp.

The story is that most escaped through England to Scotland where they were protected. England resisted the pressure from the French Pope for a long time. And apparently gave warning to those who were in England.


22 posted on 01/10/2014 6:49:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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23 posted on 01/10/2014 7:09:30 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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Place marker


24 posted on 01/10/2014 7:44:47 AM PST by kalee
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To put it mildly, the author is an ignorant ass.


25 posted on 01/10/2014 7:47:11 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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Placemarker


31 posted on 01/10/2014 12:39:25 PM PST by misanthrope (Liberalism; it is not unthinking ignorance, it is malignant evil.)
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Instead, it is a small mid-12th-century chapel in the village of Montsaunès, set in the foothills of the French Pyrenees, on one of the principal medieval highways leading from France into Spain. It was in a critical location. The fight to wrest Spain back from Islam was in full flow, and Montsaunès was on a strategic defensive line.

Baloney.

By this time in history, the line between Christianity and Islam had moved well south of the other side of the Pyrenees, which are themselves a very potent barrier.

This castle was probably important in controlling supply lines for Europeans headed into Spain to fight. But the idea that Muslim forces might attack it is ridiculous.

33 posted on 01/10/2014 1:15:41 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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