Millenial's Music Taste (vanity). Whats wrong with your generation?

[hecht]

Last night we watched ABC's Dick Clarks New Years Eve Show. When they began to show music performers, the first I saw was Billy Joel. You could tell that it was one of his bona fide live performance as he sounded different from the studio versions, some minor errors etc. In my genervation ( I'm in my 50s) the best albums were often live , where the performers would jam, experiment and ad lib. The Allmans Live at Fillmore East is an example , or the Live version of Led Zepellin's "Dazed and Confused" -filmed in San Francisco - where Robert Plant ad libbed" going to San Francisco" in the middle of the song. After Joel the show went to a series of Millenial performers who all had auto-tuned lip synched performances, where they basically just aerobic danced to songs written by someone else, don't play instruments and have a few clones dancing in synch behind them. I joked to my guests" imagine if the Beatles were part of the Millenial generation. John Lennon would be lip synching an aerobic dance with George , Ringo and Paul would dance in unison behind him. What gives Millenials? have you no sense ? don't you realize that these "performers" are manufactured pretty boys/girls ? they are live action "Archies" If your taste in music is so vacuous , is there any hope for them? Is there any hope to wan them from Obama?

Even the non song writing performers of our generation i.e..e Elvis could at least perform.

[a fool in paradise]

Hooty Sapperticker--Barbara & the Boys (1958)

That song got "Comped" (reissued on a grey market compilation album) in the 1990s. It went around the world among the garage rock crowd.

(CD cover re-reissue/re-compile)

(original 90s edition)

http://www.allmusic.com/album/las-vegas-grind-pt-1-mw0000620694

The label responsible for the Las Vegas Grind series is Strip. "Strip" is also the best possible name for the genre these compilations celebrate.

In an age where exotic dancing is invariably accompanied by Top 40 hits, it is difficult to imagine house bands for strip clubs. On the other hand, it is equally difficult to imagine this collection of bands playing anywhere else.

Las Vegas Grind is the reprobate little sister of lounge music and the unwed mother of all '60s garage bands. It distinguishes itself from these venerable styles in that it has none of lounge music's artsy cocktail pretension, nor does it possess the snotty suburban wrath that is the mark of garage bands. It is like both genres, though, in that there is not a drop of irony anywhere to be found on the whole disc.

To say that it lacks irony is not to say that it lacks jocularity. While most numbers -- "The Strip," "The Whip," and "Drums A-Go-Go," to name but three -- are sincerely risqué, several more dubious tracks -- "A La Carte," "Pimples & Braces," and "Hooty Sapperticker," for example -- approach the level of novelty tune. These musical gags seem to provide the same slightly sweaty, slightly nervous acquittal as Benny Hill, French sex comedies and Playboy cartoons. Never mind the naked ladies, it's all just bawdy fun. With naked ladies or without, Las Vegas Grind is bawdy fun, indeed.

Heck it beat listening to N'Sync or Gin Blossoms in the 1990s.http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0002/290/MI0002290382.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

[Notary Sojac]

I find more good music by reading the Amazon reviews sections (or looking at "Those who bought this also bought these..." than anywhere else.

Totally agree that there is lots of outstanding music over the last decade, you just have to get out of the "pop/rock" genre rut. In my recurring playlists, you'll find:

Eleni Mandell
Kelly Joe Phelps
The Decemberists
Bela Fleck
Jerry Douglas
Dave Alvin
Popa Chubby
Derek Trucks
Iris DeMent
Neko Case
Raul Malo
Mark O'Connor
Lucinda Williams
The BoDeans
Todd Snider

and many many more.

[a fool in paradise]

Oh, yeah. Rock isn’t dead. It’s just sort of back to smaller venues and talented people

The Post-Woodstock Bill Graham business model was unsustainable.

About the only way to make "big money" off smaller bands these days is one of those "festival" shows.

But I wish more of it could be heard on the radio.

[Mears]

“Winchester Cathedral won a Best Song Grammy. “

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Now THAT made me burst out laughing.

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[a fool in paradise]

Jimmy Hendrix recording National Anthem with 1960s electonica duo Silver Apples BEFORE he ever played Woodstock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-4Rd3cckN4

Here are some more Silver Apples songs (finished versions, the above was a studio jam as both artists used the same studio) from the 1960s

Doesn’t sound appreciably different than the “with it” electronic musicians of today. They put out 2 albums for Kapp (since re-issued).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53zYRx8bfAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lDVxlHEY8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FEeuxk2U-A

[a fool in paradise]

Quiet Riot were a Slade cover band. Or at least that’s what the radio hits were.

[a fool in paradise]

I look at music the same way as politics. Liberals suck for quantifiable and demonstrable reasons. So do some bands/music. We believe our politics is correct for quantifiable and demonstrable reasons and likewise, some bands/music can be shown to be better or worse and why.

I find music to be like food. Purely subjective taste.

Politics is about a means to an end. Of most import to be is blocking attempts at Socialism here. The chains of socialism are not easily cast off and they take their toll on the citizenry.

AND in the end, Socialism does NOT solve society's ills.

[a fool in paradise]

I guess it just comes down to ‘good’ and ‘popular’ being strangers 99.9% of the time.

Budweiser, Miller, and Coors win out in sales but "good" beers taste a lot different than those do.

[Fiji Hill]

“Las Vegas Grind” would probably have been for sale at Rhino Records in West LA. I got a lot of LP’s there that were unavailable anywhere else.

[a fool in paradise]

“Bubble Gum” rock has returned.

YES. It has (2013 release from the Dirtbombs, who've been around over 20 years).

Side A

The Dirtbombs -"Ooey Gooey Chewy Ka-Blooey!" LP SIDE A

A1. "Sugar On Top"
A2. "Crazy For You"
A3. "It's Gonna Be Alright"
A4. "Hot Sour Salty Sweet"
A5. "Jump And Shout"

In The Records #ITR248, 2013.

Written By Mick Collins
Guitar and Vocals - Mick Collins
Bass and Vocals - Ko Shih
Drums - Ben Blackwell and Pat Pantano
Bass - Chris Sutton

www.intheredrecords.com

[a fool in paradise]

OVER saturation can also breed contempt for a song/artist.

[ifinnegan]

No, taste.

[MrEdd]

That is the disconnect.

Only old people think of radio or tv as the place where you find music.
The internet and listening to each others portable players have replaced radio, tv, and record stores.

Back when I was a kid I listened to rock, classical, big band jazz, R&B, Folk, and some country if it was ballads. Most people I knew only listened to rock or country.

Today wider musical tastes are more common among young people. I think a lot of it has to do with the greater portability of large music collections.

[ifinnegan]

“Disco? You people think disco acts weren’t manufactured and using studio gimmicks (and piles of co-co-co-caine to fuel the frenzies response)?”

Absolutely.

But don’t think fir a second the same thing didn’t happen for the popularity of stadium rock bands.

W/o drugs there is no Led Zep music or popularity.

[ifinnegan]

"Nothing says dance music like a string section."

Sure enough does.

[zeugma]

But it's better! It goes to 11!

[ifinnegan]

Todd Snider is good, but his lyrics and whole attitude is such smarmy liberal hate mongering - he would fit in as an MSNBC host - against conservatives he is hard to listen to.

[Revolting cat!]

Thanks for that list (notarized, of course?), I’ll have to check out the unfamiliar names.

[Revolting cat!]

You mention Hendrix. A couple of years ago I was considering buying some reissue of his (out of dozens that have been greedily produced) and went to Amazon to read the reviews. I was surprised how many younger listeners dissed him, and dissed him intelligently, using solid, well spoken comparisons with guitarists of presumably their own generation, some of whom I went and checked out later only to nod in agreement. In the end, I never bought that reissue. So I’m no longer sure about Hendrix. I am sure however about Bill Frisell, if we’re talking about guitar players.

I do want to note something else. Rock musicians led me to their sources. a fool mentioned the little known Link Wray (whom I saw perform once). Pete Townsend was inspired by Link, and not by the pop mainstream of his youth. If the Beatles and the Rolling Stones listened to the mainstream of the late 1950s (after Buddy Holly’s, Eddie Cochran’s deaths, Jerry Lee’s and Chuck Berry’s legal troubles with nymphets, and Little Richard’s decision that the money was in religion), they’d be playing “Roses are Red” and “This Time” (Vinton, Shondell respectively - decide yourself which group would cover which singer), and there wouldn’t have been a Pete Townsend.

So what, you say? So, dig beyond what’s out there served to us on silver dishes by the recording industry and their pals in the robot drone operated radio stations. You can bet that your favorite musicians are not listening to each other, if they want their art to progress. A few years ago Van Morrison, an obscure artist of his own, whose first two Warner Bros. LPs now considered classics sold nothing at the time when Led Zep was selling millions, recorded a duet album with Linda Gail Lewis. Who? The sister of Jerry Lee, who recorded with her brother a classic duet album in the mid-60s, that inspired Morrison when he was with Them. Last year (2013 is now ‘last year’, dude!) Billie Joe Armstrong and Nora Jones, mainstream artists, recorded an album covering in its entirety the most obscure album by the Everly Brothers from the late 1950s. (I recommend both albums!) Why didn’t they record a cover album of some contemporary artist that their modern listeners favor? Cover Whitney, Radiohead? Stupid question, isn’t it. Billie Joe spoke of how he found the EB LP in the used vinyl section of Rasputin Records in Berkeley, took it home, listened to it and couldn’t get it out of his head for months. Why aren’t we listening to the best stuff out there, however obscure. Why don’t we seek it out. If Brian Jones could have ‘discovered’ Jimmie Reed, when the radio was playing Helen Shapiro, so could we (if we had been there at the time.)

Eilen Jewell (who plays with a fantastic rockabilly guitarist Jerry Miller - not the Moby Grape guy!) keeps posting on Facebook links to great obscure recordings. Another artist, Jesse Bellamy of Jesse & Noah (Bellamy Brothers next generation), the lead singer below, does the same, and has turned me on to some great music made before he was born (as I have turned him on - we’re ‘friends’.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uOT2ajBEWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0lONTZBjF0

[Revolting cat!]

To show you how silly this nostalgia business is, a Fakebook ‘friend’ of mine, whom I don’t even know, he’s only the brother of a guy whom I once knew, and didn’t even know had a brother, proudly posted a list of what he considers best rock and roll recordings ever. Proudly and shamelessly. I hate lists in the first place, but this one told you everything about the guy and nothing about the music. Told you how old he was and what crap he listened to when in his teens. Nostalgia from beginning to end. That plus bad taste (Yes, “stairway of heaven”, the 70s reference point of ridicule by rock critics was there). Numba won, was, you’d never guess, “A Hard Day’s Night”. WHAT?

I have a quote that Yogi Berra can buy from me for next to nothing and claim as his own: “I don’t miss nostalgia.”