Female Marines: They’ve got your back – As long as it doesn’t involve upper body strength.
(NBC)
Posted on 12/28/2013 8:56:40 AM PST by servo1969
Female Marines: They’ve got your back – As long as it doesn’t involve upper body strength.
(NBC)
It's an Obama world…
Female Marines can’t do pullups but will be allowed on the front lines anyway.
KPCC reported:
Starting Jan. 1, every woman in the Marines Corps was supposed to meet a new physical standard by performing three pullups. But that has been put off.The Marine Corps announced it quietly. There was no news conference — just a notice on its social media sites and an item on its own TV show, “The Corps Report.”
Lance Cpl. Ally Beiswanger explained that the pullup test had been put off until sometime next year to gather more data and “ensure all female Marines are given the best opportunity to succeed.”
So far, female Marines are not succeeding. About 55 percent of female recruits tested at the end of boot camp were doing fewer than three pullups; only 1 percent of male recruits failed the test.
The three pullups is already the minimum required for all male Marines. Now the Marine Corps has postponed the plan, and that’s raising questions about whether women have the physical strength to handle ground combat, which they’ll be allowed to do beginning in 2016.
Marine officers would not talk to NPR on tape. They said they delayed the pullup requirement to avoid losing not only recruits but also current female Marines who can’t pass the test.
For years, female Marines have had to meet a different standard — an exercise called the “flexed arm hang” (holding one’s chin above the pullup bar for at least 15 seconds).
But beginning in 2016, women in the Marine Corps and Army will be allowed to serve in infantry, armor and artillery units. And they’ll need to be strong enough to climb those mud walls and carry ammunition.
Robert Maginnis, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, says the delay shows that women just can’t meet the same standards.
“Young women, in spite of all the training and all the best intentions, are not going to be the equal of young men in terms of upper body strength,” Maginnis says. “You’ve got to have a lot of upper body strength to lift the stuff. Been there, done that.”
Maginnis just wrote a book called “Deadly Consequences: How Cowards are Pushing Women into Combat.” He says the issue has more to do with politics than protecting the nation.
A nation that sends it’s women to fight it’s wars is not fit to be called a nation.
I saw it coming when women were admitted to West Point back in 1974 or so. I said this sad state of affairs was absolutely going to happen and was hooted down then. I now say that this will become quota driven, and undoubtedly I will be ridiculed again.
On 20 November 1943, during the horrific fighting on Betio island during the battle of Tarawa, two Japanese tanks mounted a counterattack against the fragile Marine toehold on Red Beach 3. The Marines were huddled there in the face of withering fire from Admiral Keiji Shibasaki’s fanatical Japanese Naval Landing Force defenders who were slaughtering hundreds of their comrades in Betio Lagoon during 76 hours of some of the most savage fighting in the history not only of the Marines, but the US armed forces.
Marine anti-tank gun crews were trying to figure out how to get their 912 lb 37MM M3 antitank guns over the 7 foot plus seawall. The battery commander ordered his 5 man crews to LIFT them over. Being Marines who always obeyed even seemingly impossible orders, they did EXACTLY that and promptly knocked out the tanks. They then engaged several enemy bunkers whose dual purpose guns were repeatedly knocking out the approaching landing craft and put them out of action. Finally they routed a local counter attack of 200 or so Japanese against the south shore of Red Beach 3 with canister shot, all of this at a critical and precarious point in the landing.
Whats that about upper body strength being not as important in modern warfare anymore and that women are just as likely to be able to do the job of combat infantry?
The USMC is a great fighting organization with a proud and glorious history. Notwithstanding that I would pit any of the Army platoons in which I served and trained against any Marine infantry platoon any time anywhere. In every major war the US Army does most of the fighting, kils and captures most of the enemy, and captures most of the ground, if for no other reason then that it is the largest ground combat outfit.
In Vietnam on the DMZ I served on joint ops with the 26th Marines. They were a great outfit but they were no more effective against the tough NVA than my boys.
The Marines I know don’t go over the wall, they blow it up.
Really nice bryan
Any nation sending women into the front lines of combat is either fighting for it’s very survival..... or dying from within
Don’t waste your time
He is always on these threads touting chicks for combat
Weird
Lol
Frank
I look forward to Mr women in combat’s response
>>I saw it coming when women were admitted to West Point back in 1974 or so.
Women were first admitted to the service academies for the class of ‘80, so they started as freshmen in the Fall of ‘76. I dated a gal in high school who was in that first West Point class.
Seems like those “light in the loafer types” defend women being in combat the most. Just sayin’
Thanks.
That we would send young women into combat ahead of able bodied men tells just how sick our society has become.
Great looking Marine!.
Is that you pinning his bars on?
That’s me doing one and his friend doing another.
“There used to be an annual team adventure race called “the eco-challenge.” It was a multi-day team race involving all kinds of sports and challenges from rock climbing to jungle trail runs to kayaking, rough water swimming, etc.
Each team (I think of 5 or so as I recall) had to include a female. In the earliest eco-challenges, some winning teams literally CARRIED their “token female” up the hard stuff that they could not negotiate. Literally carried them.”
I have nick named many of my female relatives and my wife’s female relatives as sturdy women, and that includes my wife.
However, there are limits to what even these sturdy women can do, and the old standards of the Marines, combat army and Seals/UDTs would have eliminated these sturdy women in my family from serving in those groups.
Great picture, Dad!
Then they'll be able to rack out the pull-ups (and a lot more).
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