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Map – Areas Of Probable Power System Collapse: “130 Million Lacking Power For Several Years”
Freedom Outpost ^ | December 22, 2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 12/23/2013 8:58:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That map is based on an event involving the sun.

Where’s the map that involves an EMP?


41 posted on 12/24/2013 3:57:32 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Peppers’ PING!!

Hat tip to Tolerance Sucks Rocks.


42 posted on 12/24/2013 4:16:57 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Having spent almost 2 years living a mid 1800s lifestyle, I'm sure I'll do just fine.

/johnny

43 posted on 12/24/2013 4:21:44 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

TV series “Revolution” is about what happens when the power goes out. Projection, preparation or prophecy?


44 posted on 12/24/2013 4:25:17 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Mastador1

It’ll make a great lawn ornament, right next to the gazing balls and gnomes. LOL.


45 posted on 12/24/2013 4:25:25 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well then we better do it to the people who want to do it to us first,so they can’t do it to us!


46 posted on 12/24/2013 4:29:24 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: All

so pretty much all the areas dominated by democrats for generations have problems? You don’t say.


47 posted on 12/24/2013 4:30:13 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Bush’s fault!

Electric ground fault!

48 posted on 12/24/2013 4:31:20 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
fuel would be locked just a few feet beneath the surface of every gas station

Not for long. People are clever.

/johnny

49 posted on 12/24/2013 4:40:15 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mastador1
"What do all the “evnvironmentals” do when the grid goes down? shuffle their feet on a wool carpet to recharge?"

Oh hell no...wool carpet probably represents cruelty to the sheep...I'm sure the carpet would be some kind of poly blend.

Oh, and thanks for the laugh. :)

50 posted on 12/24/2013 4:49:11 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mortrey
I read it and it sounds like total BS. Take this quote, for example: He revealed only that the man who shared this information, “is one of America’s foremost military heroes,” suggesting the source is a public figure.

Now I'm not normally the skeptical type but it doesn't make a lot of sense that one of America's foremost military heroes (and, just to keep it semi-logical, also a patriot who loves his country) wouldn't be brave enough to speak out on such a vital subject in public rather than leaking it to a blogger then going into hiding. Anyone who believes this needs the antennas on their tinfoil hat adjusted.

51 posted on 12/24/2013 5:52:54 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Darksheare
Also recall some claiming it was “impossible” to attack the power grid.

Twenty teams...or cells. Five per team. Each assigned to a geographical area so the whole of the East Coast is covered. One hundred men.

Two men on each team have become proficient with a .308 rifle and scope. They scout the power sub stations in the area.

The entire operation is coordinated by cell phone. When the "Go" signal is received from a central coordinator, each team puts several rounds into the transformers at these stations. Within minutes, the whole of the East Coast is in the dark for a decade.

52 posted on 12/24/2013 6:35:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gun horror is not a productive emotion, but learned helplessness disguised as moral superiority.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any more reason needed to have your state with the capability of removing itself from the grid and supplying local power to customers.

There would be some states severely in the toilet, but others with a net surplus. Finding out who right now would be important.

...knowing that one of the more important power producers in your area had already shut down seven that’s right seven coal fired power plants up to fifteen years early that’s right fifteen years early to avoid problems, not with outages, no, problems with the terrorist at the EPA.

...and if this isn’t a manufactured crises by the terrorists in DC I’ll be really surprised. Time for an all FR PING


53 posted on 12/24/2013 6:35:58 AM PST by wita
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This article is total nonsense. It makes the assumption that every single one of these 130 million people are so dumb that they would just sit at home and starve to death if the power went out.

Some regions can produce more power than they need, some produce less. In the event that EVERY SINGLE ONE of these connecting transformers FAILED COMPLETELY there would still remain the generating capacity. The regions capable of producing more than they need could simply cut back to produce only what they need. The regions not capable of producing all that need could still produce all that they could, and provide rolling blackouts to make up the difference. It would be inconvenient, but hardly life threatening.

There is simply no scenario where every single transformer, and every single generator in the US gets simultaneously fried, incapable of repair. Never discount the ingenuity of man.

54 posted on 12/24/2013 6:47:34 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Mortrey

This buffoon believes that DHS is going to initiate a false flag operation...by creating an earthquake in the New Madrid fault area with their new Earthquake Ray Gun? Riiiiight.


55 posted on 12/24/2013 6:48:45 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gun horror is not a productive emotion, but learned helplessness disguised as moral superiority.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Kartographer; blam; JRandomFreeper; Lazamataz
The most likely scenario is one of our enemies corrupting the internet. That will shut down everything and it will be instant. You won't get a warning, just suddenly you are isolated. You could get in your car and go to the grocery store and find chaos already there as credit cards don't work. Nothing works. What you have is what you have stored and maybe you have food plants growing in a garden. Maybe you have a generator and some fuel for it but that won't last long and you can't buy anymore.

And, your Obamacare insurance card is worthless - oh, wait, it's already worthless.

56 posted on 12/24/2013 8:05:08 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Williams
Do I need to finish this article? It’s pure bullcrap. Society does not collapse after 72 hours without power.

I live outside of Washington, D.C. Two and a half years ago we had a sudden windstorm, a "derecho," that took out power for several days. People who didn't have a full tank of gas couldn't get out of the area because the gas stations weren't working and the DC Metro wasn't running--and besides, many roads were blocked by fallen trees or by accidents that had taken place in the absence of traffic lights. There was no way to get money out of your bank or buy food. The stores began throwing meat and produce away after their generators ran out of fuel. In my pretty doctors-and-lawyers neighborhood, groups of young men of different racial and ethnic groups began roaming up and down the street. I assume they were not looking for friends to come out and have a beer with them; they were strangers and they looked like trouble. It was hot. People who weren't used to living without air conditioning were angry and got into fights. The cops were too overwhelmed to respond. People who needed medication could not get it.

This is what happened after a very short period, only a few days, with the promise of near-term restoration of power. What do you think it would be like if the whole grid went down for a prolonged period, with no promise that it would ever be restored? Watching this event, and the previous one we called "Snowmaggeddon" when I had no power for five days, is what made me a prepper. Twice in just a few years--yes, it makes you think. Or it should.

57 posted on 12/24/2013 8:38:01 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: spokeshave

>> “Problem is that the main transformers would be fried.....no spares” <<

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A misperception at best.

You would likely be astounded at how much back-up hardware PG&E has stockpiled in hundreds of locations, and if you believe that they leave their transformers completely unprotected, you would be quite wrong.

Actually, EMP is not a great threat to transformers, but to intelligent switching devices. The lines and transformers are more like the antennas that direct the damage.

Long transmission lines, even if switched out, generate tremendous EMF just from swinging in the wind, and can sometimes even arc across an open switch during a wind storm, which is why out of service lines are often grounded at both ends.


58 posted on 12/24/2013 8:48:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Nik Naym

What do you mean? Didn’t they light up the War of 1812 battle fields like a night football game?

If a bird lands on the wires here, we lose electricity but according to the map we have nothing to worry about.


59 posted on 12/24/2013 8:50:30 AM PST by bgill
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To: spokeshave

Last time they intentionally shut the power off to avoid too much use during a winter storm, they blew transformers when they were turned back on. Doesn’t give me too much confidence in them getting anything working very quickly in a major fail.


60 posted on 12/24/2013 8:54:24 AM PST by bgill
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