Posted on 12/20/2013 5:46:30 AM PST by IbJensen
sent this out in my email its that good- may have lost a ‘friend’ or two but its just so well written
I will pray for you and that God shows you the truth. To label Pope Francis as Papa Gaga does not come from Christ. It comes from the Prince of Darkness. You screed is full of untruths and distortions. If you really feel this way, then pray for the Pope. If you can’t do that, then that tells me all I need to know about you because it does not reflect a charitable and prayerful spirit.
Not to say Francis I hasn't given me a turn or two. But this chap is not a Catholic priest in good standing, and never has been. For those of you familiar with these things, both the Society of St. Pius X and the Society of St. Pius the V were too liberal for him. He's not showing all his cards here. He doesn't believe the Pope is the Pope. Many of these sedevacantist ("the seat is empty") groups actually elect their own "Popes." There are several of these.
He makes an accurate observation here or there. But he's a crank. He has no judgment. And judgment is everything.
Excellent commentary on our current situation. Wolves in sheep’s clothing, that is what the bishops of Vatican II are. Pope Francis needs conversion, and prayers.
A devastated vineyard.
Excellent commentary on our current situation. Wolves in sheep’s clothing, that is what the bishops of Vatican II are. Pope Francis needs conversion, and prayers.
A devastated vineyard.
So much junk to have to remember and sort out.
Wouldn’t it be a LOT easier to go the PROTESTant route and just rely on what the BIBLE says?
Probably so.
But the view of Catholics—at least the Catholics that I know—is that Apostolic succession lies in the Church, not in the Gospel proclaimed by the Apostles. Though in their eyes, it’s the same thing.
We Protestants believe that apostolic authority comes solely from the pure teachings of the Apostles, which came from Jesus. The Catholics I know believe that it comes from the Roman Catholic Church. Offering to share the Bible with the ones I know typically results in them telling me, “No thanks; I have a priest for that.” Because they were taught to place apostolic authority in the institution, not the message.
At least in my experience, that’s the case.
Sounds about right.
Just curious, why did you post this?
So Cekada is just a moral relativist like any other modernist. Maybe worse than some, since he deliberately does what he knows is wrong.
Have you ever met a Catholic?
Yes. Yes I have. Many of them.
And what I said has been the belief of the majority of the ones I’ve met. Perhaps it’s not the belief of the majority of Catholics in the world, but it IS the belief of the majority of those that I’ve met.
and this is how many Catholic schools are adopting the horrible “Common Core” across the country
Indeed!
Because I know this priest very well.
Anthony Cekada, this author is not a Catholic Priest and never was.
He may be a clergyman in some small Christian group (there are over 36,000 sects presently) but he is not what he claims to be; a Roman Catholic Priest. Thus he is not to be believed no matter how much he feeds the misinformed prejudices on display here.
If Mister Cekada had made his status clear at the beginning of his post I would give his harsh criticisms enough respect to inspire my close examination and refutation. These claims to be clergy are everywhere lately. In Kentucky we even have have women claiming to be Catholic Priests and holding ordinations. The Lexington Herald-Leader presents them as priests. Dishonest women and dishonest newspaper.
Cekada was “ordained” by an infamous ex-Bishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1977. Levebre had been forbidden in 1976 by Pope Paul IV to ordain priests and had his other clerical powers removed.( see note below) It was not a Catholic ordination.
There is a tidal wave of disinformation about the Catholic Church in the public square. Many delight in believing and repeating these clever lies, but such people lack industry and virtue.
If these opponents of the Catholic Church have valid points they could have used the truth.
NOTE from wikipedia:
“In January 1975 the new Bishop of Fribourg stated his wish to withdraw the SSPX’s [Th is Lefebvre’s “Society of Saint Pius the 10th] pious union status. Though Lefebvre then had two meetings with the commission of Cardinals, the Bishop put his intention into effect on 6 May 1975,[52] thereby officially dissolving the Society.[Notes 16] This action was subsequently upheld by Pope Paul VI, who wrote to Archbishop Lefebvre in June 1975. Lefebvre continued his work regardless.[55] In the consistory of 24 May 1976, Pope Paul VI criticized Archbishop Lefebvre by name and appealed to him and his followers to change their minds.[56]
On 29 June 1976, Lefebvre went ahead with planned priestly ordinations without the approval of the local Bishop and despite receiving letters from Rome forbidding them. As a result Lefebvre was suspended a collatione ordinum, i.e., forbidden to ordain any priests.”
I could respond with a lengthy thesis of my own, but I know in my heart, mind and soul what I believe to be the correct situation that exists today within the Roman Catholic Church.
The Church is indeed Roman, being located in Rome, but it is no longer catholic (small c) as liturgy and tenets appear to vary from parish to parish worldwide.
What Vatican II subsequently did, in effect, to the delight of the modernists and secular humanists was to create an entirely new religion based on mankind. I in total honesty believe that our Lord cannot be pleased with the outcome.
I join you in not being altogether pleased with Vatican II. But most of Vatican II was just moving the furniture around and starting to celebrate Mass in the local language. The criticisms are just quibbles.
For 2000 years the Catholic Church has always varied from country to country in non-essentials and surface appearances. In essentials it is unchanged and thank God for it and its lone stand against the extensive depravity of modernity. Most of the martyrs in this new Age of Martyrdom are Roman Catholics though the media insist on the generic term “Christians”.
The essential Mass is the same.
As Scott Hahn has clearly demonstrated in “Consuming the Word: The New Testament and The Eucharist in the Early Church” the “New Testament”is actually not part of a a book. The “New Testament” is the Catholic Mass.
The Mass is the opera, the Bible is just the libretto.
It was more than merely moving furniture around: like moving the Tabernacle into an insignificant niche or room and moving the tenets of the faith out the window. This was done IN ORDER TO CREATE A NEW RELIGION.
The mistaken purpose, that is if Marxist prelates weren’t in on the scheme and I doubt that fact, was to bring the archaic Roman Catholic Church into the 32st Century.
But they forgot one thing: Jesus Christ doesn’t wear Nikes.
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