Posted on 12/19/2013 10:53:46 AM PST by marktwain
If I pull the trigger I will have shirt buttons in my sights.
Lack of self-defense training leads to these types of cases too. I’m for it, but without the warning shots.
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While I am totally opposed to warning shots, I do support this bill. It is a shame that they conflated warning shots and brandishing, but that is the legislature for you.
Bearing arms explicitly means being able to show someone your weapon, or even taking aim with or without firing. It is stupid that current FL law requires you to shoot someone to ensure you are not prosecuted by the state persecutors.
I don’t think you should even pull a gun unless you have cause. And you shouldn’t discharge it unless you are trying to stop someone from hurting you or someone else.
Prosecutorial misconduct is standard operating procedure in florida.
Defensive display should be legal every where if one can prevent or stop a crime by merely showing that one is armed.
Seems like a good idea, the left hates the idea because it shows the usefulness of being armed.
Warning shots most of the time a bad idea. I know of a couple of times where they were used and the subject complied and wasn’t shot.
It takes a very special set of circumstances to considered them. One just can’t be popping rounds off into the air hoping for the best.
Shooting some one no matter how justified brings on its own set on problems.
I just don’t think the chances of someone reversing course at the simple sight of a weapon is good odds. Some people think a gun is a magic wand and all they have to do is wave it.
What odds are you considering? I have been reading and writing about people using guns defensively for the last 40 years. Been doing it very intensively for the last five. The overwhelming majority (probably over 90+% of the time, the scenario is some variation of “someone shows a gun and the aggressor runs off”.
Odds of just showing a gun and the attacker runs away are low IMO but it depends on the circumstances.
Im just saying a gun shouldn’t be waved around like a magic wand. It should stay concealed until you have cause.
Why do you post your responses to All? You’ve done this several times. People can read the thread if they are interested but it seems curious as to why you have to shout out to everyone when there is someone that you disagree with.
I usually post to all because I believe that if people are interested enough in the thread to post to it then they are likely to be interested in responses.
I have been doing it for some time. I do not consider it “shouting”, which I reserve for using all caps. If the response is particularly to an individual, and is not meant for general interest, then I may not post it to all.
If someone is posting on a public forum, it is meant to be seen by many. Yours is the first complaint that I have had, and you would have been posted to if I had left the “all” off.
Sorry if I have offended you, that was not the intent.
A gun isn’t a magic wand, but I can guarantee racking a shotgun quickly gets people’s attention, and aiming a weapon without firing is not always a bad choice.
There are many times that just showing a weapon will deter criminals—of course that means being prepared to fire, and not just “waving it around.”
“There are many times that just showing a weapon will deter criminals—of course that means being prepared to fire, and not just “waving it around.”
Yep, I was always taught not to pull a firearm unless there was cause and you were ready to use it.
Doesn’t mean you have to shoot them, but firearms are deadly force and aren’t meant as warning devices.
i too have mixed feelings. if this means it’s leagl to show a person you are armed so as to defuse the situation (as in pulling your coat back and putting your hand on your holstered weapon i’m for it. once the weapon leaves the holster the only shot is to the body. warming shots are dangerous and a lawyer can argue “if you had time for a warning shot, you weren’t in a life threatening position.”
if you are willing to draw you have to be willing to shoot and possibly kill. if you haven’t given that serious thought, you shouldn’t carry.
If I draw I am committed to finishing the situation.
>>I just don’t think the chances of someone reversing course at the simple sight of a weapon is good odds. Some people think a gun is a magic wand and all they have to do is wave it.<<
I have had it happen twice. Once all I needed was to show the holstered weapon, the other time I actually had to unholster it. The last thing I wanted to do was shoot the punk because of the time and money that would have cost me.
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