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Christmas Really Isn't about Christ - Why I'm not Celebrating Christmas Even Though I'm a Christian
Kirchhoff's Law ^ | 12-14-2013 | Mary C. Kirchhoff

Posted on 12/14/2013 2:56:27 PM PST by InHisService

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To: HarleyD

The article sounds like someone who can’t afford fancy gifts and wants to justify not buying presents because the “Holy Spirit” told her to do it. Sorry, but if people think Christmas is about giving gifts (even expensive ones), then they completely miss the point.


Ah, but Christmas is about giving gifts. Why do retailers open on Thanksgiving at 8 p.m? Why do they spend millions advertising Black Friday, and continue advertising until after New Years? Why is it we can’t escape the commercialism every year? And what does gift giving have to do with the birth of Jesus? Absolutely nothing. And BTW, if I wanted to purchase gifts, I could. I did it for years. I’m not buying into it anymore. The truth hurts, doesn’t it?


221 posted on 12/15/2013 11:29:52 AM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: CynicalBear; Fester Chugabrew; InHisService
We are perfectly free to coopt every pagan tradition and every substance in honor and celebration of the Christ, the crucified and risen One

And; vice versa...



222 posted on 12/15/2013 11:30:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InHisService

I’m beginning to realize more and more how assumptions people make about others reveal so much about themselves.

When they draw conclusions about why they act or do as they do when they don’t know the circumstances, there’s only one basis on which they make those assumptions. It’s THEIR personal experience or attitude.

Attributing motive can be very dangerous.


223 posted on 12/15/2013 11:32:40 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: AppyPappy

Translation: It’s all about me


Actually, it isn’t about me. If you came away thinking that, you need to reread what I wrote. It is about Jesus and the fact that Christmas as it is has nothing to do with his birth, if we are honest.


224 posted on 12/15/2013 11:35:06 AM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: Fiji Hill
True, the Bible doesn’t mandate celebrating Christmas.
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Are Christians who observe these occasions committing sin?

The Bible DOES, however, mandate celebrating Passover (for Jews, anyway).
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Are Christians, who do NOT observe that occasion, committing a sin? (or Jews, for that matter...)

225 posted on 12/15/2013 11:35:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

226 posted on 12/15/2013 11:38:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jocon307
LOL @ Lay’s Potato chips!

InDEED!!

(But wait'll the pagans find out!)

227 posted on 12/15/2013 11:39:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Faith65
We have not had a “Christmas Tree” in our home for years and years. Instead, a very large wooden cross is put up in our yard with a spot light.

I've been threatening (to no one in particular) to put up a cross with a bunny on it around Easter time in my yard.

But I've not yet worked up the courage.

I don't want people yelling HERETIC!!! at me!

228 posted on 12/15/2013 11:41:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InHisService
How can one put up a Christmas tree after reading this??

Because most folks would READ THE WHOLE CONTEXT?


Jeremiah 10
 
1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel.  
2 This is what the LORD says: "Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the sky, though the nations are terrified by them.  
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.  
4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."

229 posted on 12/15/2013 11:46:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InHisService

I was raised by a single mom.

From about 6 years old on.


230 posted on 12/15/2013 11:47:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jocon307

Thank you for this reply. I didn’t know that apparently every Christmas, someone posts something similar on here. I’ve obviously ruffled a few feathers. I just want to say, if people are aware of the pagan traditions and still think it’s ok to celebrate Christmas, go ahead. I don’t look down on those who do. After all, I did for years as well, until I had an epiphany. I hope other Christians will come to realize the truth about Christmas, and we will see some changes. God Bless!


231 posted on 12/15/2013 11:47:20 AM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService
I find it amazing that either merchants (or the media hypers) will worry that the season won't see as much sales this year.

WHAT???

Are the 'customers' going to just BURN their money in the fireplace???

I can guarantee you that the 'customers' will spent every bit of their money: sooner of later!

232 posted on 12/15/2013 11:50:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InHisService

If you think Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus these days, you need to come to my church. Or ring a bell for the Salvation Army. Or spend some time at a mission helping the needy.

It is so much about Jesus that the anti-theists work overtime trying to shut it up. But you are too busy looking for everything but Jesus. Or wondering why it isn’t about you, Mr Scrooge..

“There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have not profited, I dare say,” returned the nephew. “Christmas among the rest. But I am sure that I have always thought of Christmas Time, when it has come round— apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that—as a good time: a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts, freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say God bless it!”


233 posted on 12/15/2013 11:56:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: InHisService
I don’t look down on those who do. After all, I did for years as well, until I had an epiphany.

Good!

We are ALL on the Same Path here (I hope!).

Some are farther along than others.


Romans 14:1
Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters.
 
Romans 15:1
We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves.
 
1 Thessalonians 5:14
We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone.

234 posted on 12/15/2013 11:58:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: InHisService

Sorry, the idea that putting up a tree in my living room removes Christ from the season for me is just, well....stupid.


235 posted on 12/15/2013 12:06:39 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Elsie

Thank you for that. It’s the same Scripture someone used once to accuse me of worshiping my Christmas tree.


236 posted on 12/15/2013 12:12:49 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: InHisService

Thank you also for a good conversation.

And let me avoid all controversy by saying best wishes to you and yours for a healthy and prosperous 2014!


237 posted on 12/15/2013 12:17:04 PM PST by jocon307
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To: metmom

Ah....my wife makes the best fruitcakes. Every year she makes two-one for Christmas and one for July. One can’t eat enough of those cherries and candied fruit that will last for a 1,000 years.


238 posted on 12/15/2013 12:20:15 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: InHisService
1 Corinthians 10.

Speaking of meat sacrificed to idols, Paul said it was fine for believers to eat it, unless by doing so one presented a stumbling block to the weak. Paul understood that pagan gods are not real and have no power.

Essentially Paul was affirming the fact that Jesus has set us free from legalism, and from imaginary influence from nonexistent gods. He made it clear that anyone not comfortable eating meat sacrificed to pagan gods should not violate their conscience and do so.....likewise, you should not celebrate Christmas if you think it's wrong. On the other hand, as long as we use Christmas to reflect on Christ's birth while we celebrate it, there is no problem.

239 posted on 12/15/2013 12:23:19 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: InHisService
Why do they spend millions advertising Black Friday, and continue advertising until after New Years?

They're out to get your money-just like the after-Christmas sales, the Inventory sales in February, the Spring sales in April, the 4th of July sales, on and on and on. Grant it most stores make most of their money during this season. But let the others spend their money.

Ah, but Christmas is about giving gifts.

Maybe to other but not to me. We do give gifts to our son but ever since he was a teenager I had him make a list with prices and curb expectations. Let others push and shove for those cheap TV sets at 6am in the morning. Amazon.com is my friend and I'm usually done with any shopping within a half hour.

240 posted on 12/15/2013 12:36:38 PM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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