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To: whitedog57
I don't see it as a surrender.

I see it as a strategic retreat.

Give a little now, prevent a another shutdown, and the Repubs will sweep the House and Senate in 2014.

Hold out, defeat the budget agreement, cause another shutdown and all the gains made due to Obamacare will disappear.

The Repubs will be blamed and will end up losing the elections.

Patty Murry really was defeated, Ryan was victorious, unless "Conservatives" manage to f*ck it up.

17 posted on 12/11/2013 3:07:21 PM PST by FroggyTheGremlim ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: eCSMaster
Give a little now, prevent a another shutdown, and the Repubs will sweep the House and Senate in 2014.

They didn't need this to prevent a shutdown. They could have let the sequester go into effect.

20 posted on 12/11/2013 3:34:43 PM PST by Hugin
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To: eCSMaster

Karl Rove, is that you?


23 posted on 12/11/2013 4:06:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: eCSMaster
Patty Murry really was defeated, Ryan was victorious, unless "Conservatives" manage to f*ck it up.

Ryan victorious? Are you serious?

Paul Ryan is a pure Statist. Our Founders were Warriors for Liberty who risked ALL for Freedom.

Paul Ryan is a very metro-sexual, weak-minded, technocrat who loathes Conservatives. His 10 year budget proposals are an insult.

Ryan has ZERO appreciation for the value of Liberty as an ideal.

24 posted on 12/11/2013 4:32:16 PM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: eCSMaster

Sounds like the same old crap that the Establishment RINOs have been tossing at us ever since we put them back in control of the House.

That game plan has worked out really well for the country, hasn’t it?

Maybe it’s time for that thinking to be tossed into the crapper.

Put the good of our Country, our Constitution and our Liberty ahead of the “best interests” of the GOP Establishment.

That will be a winning recipe, for certain.


25 posted on 12/11/2013 4:32:51 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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