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1 posted on 11/23/2013 7:29:40 AM PST by WXRGina
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There is at least a grain of truth in any conspiracy theory, and this one echoes a lot of talk back then. I grew up in IN, and I remember that immediately people talked of LBJ being in on it, if not totally responsible. Did Oswald shoot Kennedy? Probably. Was he put up to it by LBJ (through another agent?) Very likely. LBJ was like the Clintons today. VERY. WELL. CONNECTED! It would take layers and layers to come off of the onion before one could explicitly implicate LBJ, but that is the purpose. Because, after time, “what difference does it make?’’ sound familiar? And, the players are all dead. No one will ever know for certain exactly what happened. The truth lies in the graves of those who knew. Think Vince Foster, & about 40+ people from Arkansas who knew too much about the Clintons , the LBJ entourage, all dead now and unless God shows us the truth on the day of judgment, we’ll never know.


41 posted on 11/23/2013 8:17:28 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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No one had more to gain from the death of JFK than LBJ. He would not have been Vice-President in a Kennedy second term - Kennedy planned to drop him. He would have been just another forgotten Vice-President. Instead, the assassination made him the leader of the free world.


42 posted on 11/23/2013 8:18:13 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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47 posted on 11/23/2013 8:27:14 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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btr


48 posted on 11/23/2013 8:28:04 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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LBJ only covered it up.

Castro had JFK killed in retaliation for his attempts to assassinate Castro. Lee Harvey Oswald’s connections with Cuban agents in Mexico and his visits to the Soviet Union are compelling I think.


49 posted on 11/23/2013 8:38:49 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Anyone remember W’s spokesman Scott McClellan?

His father a well known Texas attorney wrote this:

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Money-Power-How-Killed/dp/161608197X

Just because Oswall pulled the trigger doesn’t mean it wasn’t a conspiracy.

Just because something is a conspiracy doesn’t mean it is NOT true.


50 posted on 11/23/2013 8:41:17 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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"LBJ spread the knowingly false story that the Russian government had killed Kennedy. He told Earl Warren, the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, "LBJ spread the knowingly false story that the Russian government had killed Kennedy. He told Earl Warren, the chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court,

Warren refused to have the Comission view the autopsy photographs. Warren refused Jack Ruby's request to be brought to Washington to testify.

51 posted on 11/23/2013 8:44:08 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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As amazing as this may sound, the ‘LBJ’ riding in the motorcade was an exact double!
Lyndon Baines Johnson was next to Oswald in the Texas book depository, spotting for him.


53 posted on 11/23/2013 8:47:55 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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ping


57 posted on 11/23/2013 9:05:14 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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Probably...Why else would the gov’t (still) be hiding the results of their investigation???


59 posted on 11/23/2013 9:12:59 AM PST by Iscool
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All these theories miss one essential element.

It was raining in Dallas, Friday morning, 11-22-63.

Had the rain continued, the ‘bubble-top’ would have been on the car.

So, we need to throw in an ability to control the weather...


60 posted on 11/23/2013 9:16:08 AM PST by Paisan
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“The Dallas coroner recalled, after the FBI left, finding black fingerprint ink on the hands Oswald’s corpse, which obviously wasn’t there before the FBI arrived.”

You don’t use fingerprint ink to plant a false print on evidence. Natural skin oils are what leave a fingerprint.

Imagine how with how tight a grip Oswald must have clutched his rifle as he fired the fatal shots.

That “ink” detail doesn’t pass the smell test. LBJ was an evil man with a truly demonic ambition. Did he wish all the Kennedys dead? Obviously. Could LBJ have created an airtight conspiracy with a great many players? Well.....


61 posted on 11/23/2013 9:16:44 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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I have for a long time believed that JFK was killed because he dared to put the USA monetary system back onto the USA Treasury track instead of the Federal Reserve track or for his showdown stand in the Cuban missile crisis. The Fed Reserve is not a USA entity. For all its name and personnel in the USA it is a European banker controlled entity. Recall that JFK had the USA treasury print about $250,000,000.00 in true USA Treasury bills. These were as good for commerce as the Fed Reserve notes. This was a bold affront to the money brokers established by Pres. Wilson with the help of European bankers controlled by the Rothchild family of European bankers. Recall also it was this same family of bankers, the family goes back centuries, that used the communists such as Marx, Lenin and Engels to depose the Ruling Czar of Russia when he refused to knuckle under to their demands for monetary control of Russia. Recall now that Khrushchev boasted his communism would bury the USA. Recall that it was and still is today widely accepted that Oswald was a dyed in the wool communist having spent time in Russia. So I come to the thought that Oswald, perhaps with others, was a tool either of the European bankers for their revenge/payback or Russian payback for the Cuban debacle which must have really smarted their pride. Because the Russian government today is still beholding to the communist government set up years ago by the bankers it is not a far stretch to think of both factions/causes wanting JFK out of the way and both had capable means for such to act in concert.


62 posted on 11/23/2013 9:25:44 AM PST by noinfringers2
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I ordered the Roger Stone book. Looking forward to reading it.


64 posted on 11/23/2013 9:54:50 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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Barr McClellan’s book tells the same story, basically that LBJ and Ed Clark had painted themselves into a corner in such a way that only the power of the presidency was going to keep the two of them out of prison, and that JFK was going to dump Johnson from the ticket in 64.


68 posted on 11/23/2013 10:38:49 AM PST by varmintman
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Billy Sol Estes claimed LBJ had JFK killed.
70 posted on 11/23/2013 10:41:11 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: WXRGina; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; LonePalm; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee

I had a friend, who was a Secret Service agent assigned to LBJ during his VP days and later as president.

This friend felt that LBJ was a rude/crude man, a liar and criminally insane when it came to grabbing power and keeping it.

After LBJ maneuvered this country into a full war with N Vietnam, (more on that below), he saddled our Navy/Marine, USAF and Army warriors with ROE’s which resulted in many of our warriors being killed, wounded or captured by enemies of America.

Below are 3 critical incidents where our Navy Warriors were used, abused, put into danger, wounded/killed or captured to be abandoned by this vile person:

http://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2008-02/truth-about-tonkin

On 2 August 1964, North Vietnamese patrol torpedo boats attacked the USS Maddox (DD-731) while the destroyer was in international waters in the Gulf of Tonkin. There is no doubting that fact.

But what happened in the Gulf during the late hours of 4 August—and the consequential actions taken by U.S. officials in Washington—has been seemingly cloaked in confusion and mystery ever since that night.

Over the next three hours, the two ships repeatedly maneuvered at high speeds to evade perceived enemy boat attacks. The destroyers reported automatic-weapons fire; more than 20 torpedo attacks; sightings of torpedo wakes, enemy cockpit lights, and searchlight illumination; and numerous radar and surface contacts. By the time the destroyers broke off their “counterattack,” they had fired 249 5-inch shells, 123 3-inch shells, and four or five depth charges. 10

Commander Stockdale was again in the action, this time alone. When his wingman’s aircraft developed trouble, Stockdale got permission to launch solo from the Ticonderoga . He arrived overhead at 2135. For more than 90 minutes, he made runs parallel to the ships’ course and at low altitude (below 2,000 feet) looking for the enemy vessels. He reported later, “I had the best seat in the house to watch that event and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets—there were no PT boats there . . . there was nothing there but black water and American firepower.” 11

Captain Herrick also began to have doubts about the attack. As the battle continued, he realized the “attacks” were actually the results of “overeager sonar operators” and poor equipment performance. The Turner Joy had not detected any torpedoes during the entire encounter, and Herrick determined that the Maddox ‘s operators were probably hearing the ship’s propellers reflecting off her rudder during sharp turns. 12 The destroyer’s main gun director was never able to lock onto any targets because, as the operator surmised, the radar was detecting the stormy sea’s wave tops.

By 0127 on 5 August, hours after the “attacks” had occurred, Herrick had queried his crew and reviewed the preceding hours’ events. He sent a flash (highest priority) message to Honolulu, which was received in Washington at 1327 on 4 August, declaring his doubts: “Review of action makes many reported contacts and torpedoes fired appear doubtful. Freak weather effects on radar and overeager sonarmen may have accounted for many reports. No actual visual sightings by MADDOX. Suggest complete evaluation before any further action taken.” 13

What really happened to the USS Liberty while LBJ was POTUS.

http://www.gtr5.com/

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack:

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.
The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.

The Cover Up:

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty

A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy’s inquiry to “conclude that the attack was a case of ‘mistaken identity’ despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.”

It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/uss-pueblo-captured

On January 23, 1968, the USS Pueblo, a Navy intelligence vessel, is engaged in a routine surveillance of the North Korean coast when it is intercepted by North Korean patrol boats. According to U.S. reports, the Pueblo was in international waters almost 16 miles from shore, but the North Koreans turned their guns on the lightly armed vessel and demanded its surrender. The Americans attempted to escape, and the North Koreans opened fire, wounding the commander and two others. With capture inevitable, the Americans stalled for time, destroying the classified information aboard while taking further fire. Several more crew members were wounded.

Finally, the Pueblo was boarded and taken to Wonson. There, the 83-man crew was bound and blindfolded and transported to Pyongyang, where they were charged with spying within North Korea’s 12-mile territorial limit and imprisoned. It was the biggest crisis in two years of increased tension and minor skirmishes between the United States and North Korea.

The United States maintained that the Pueblo had been in international waters and demanded the release of the captive sailors. With the Tet Offensive raging 2,000 miles to the south in Vietnam, President Lyndon Johnson ordered no direct retaliation.


75 posted on 11/23/2013 10:57:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (You can keep your doctor, health plan, and this is only a cold sore.)
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I’ve always thought it was LBJ. Evil, evil man.

Cavuto was interviewing the co-worker who had driven Oswald to work that day. He said that the package Oswald brought was too small to be the gun that killed Kennedy. (I figure that Texan men know their guns.) And he’d never believed Oswald was the culprit. But, he did kill that cop; there’s always that.


79 posted on 11/23/2013 11:11:23 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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I think LBJ knew about it. LBJ mistress said there was a meeting in texas with carlos mancello,LBJ, and a texas oil man several weeks before JFK got shot..After reading up on it some i asked some close friends what they thought happened— one of my friends from NO area told me that one of the shooters was lewis allmen or allmon, allman (not sure how to spell it)-that worked for mancello.. He said his mother had the letters to prove he was there, and he did leave with a rifle and returned with one. I live close to new orleans and you know how a rumor can get started.. Is it true? i have no idea.. mabe you should research lewis allmen — i’ve never heard the name mention before.. he did say he thought he was still alive in new orleans, and he did work for carlos mancello


84 posted on 12/23/2013 2:24:38 PM PST by chicken head
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