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No, the Metapedia article is NOT correct. Nobody at Metapedia contacted me to ask a single question. So, instead, they just INVENTED a narrative about me so that they could express their Jew-hatred (I am not Jewish either but that did not prevent Metapedia from making anti-Semitic comments about me). Here is another webpage on me (by a neo-nazi) which is even more disgusting — since YOU seem to prefer these kinds of sources: http://jewonstormfront.blogspot.com/


87 posted on 12/26/2013 5:13:37 PM PST by searching123 (BirchSociety, CleonSkousen, GlennBeck, FBI)
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OK, I think I am beginning to understand where you are coming from. You claim the text I cited from Metapedia is incorrect, and somebody just "INVENTED" a narrative. And they did so to express "their Jew-hatred".

So lets compare that text to the text posted on the site you identify as yours. You posted a link to your site in this thread:

"When you have a few moments, check out my Documentary History of the JBS webpages and let me know how many of these documents you have seen or even know about?"

https://sites.google.com/site/ernie1241/

And I presume you believe what is written at that site is true. It seems like you wrote it yourself. It says:

I am a “conspiracy buff” and a freelance researcher. I am not connected to any organization.

My interest in this subject matter began in the early 1960’s. A relative of mine (who was a police officer) had a subscription to the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin which I read regularly. Every issue had an “Introductory Message” authored by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. One day while reading one of Hoover’s messages, I noticed that he made a comment which flatly contradicted a statement which, coincidentally, had just been published in a letter-to-the-editor to my local newspaper. So I responded to that person’s letter. I quoted Hoover’s comment and I added some additional material from a recent report by the California Senate Fact-Finding Subcommittee on Un-American Activities.

After my reply was published, I received several hostile anonymous phone calls and one individual (whom I later discovered was a John Birch Society member) replied in the form of a poem which was published in my local paper. One part of her poem inquired: “Is it just coincidence that Ernie’s words so arty, sound just like the Communist Party?”

I never understood (then or now) how quoting Hoover or our state un-American activities committee could put me in the company of the CPUSA --- and thus began my life-long interest in right-wing conspiracy theories and their adherents.

The Metapedia text, which you claim was written by someone to express their "Jew-hatred" says:

Back in the 1960s Lazar as a teenager was a liberal--if not a radical--and would have political discussions with a police relative over the issues of police brutality, drug use, and police corruption.[4] One day he obtained a copy of the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin from the same relative containing J. Edgar Hoover’s comments on a particular subversive organization. Lazar decided to write a letter to the editor of his local paper concerning Hoover’s remarks. Lazar took offense when a member of the John Birch Society challenge his letter and replied, "Is it just coincidence that Ernie’s words so arty, sound just like the Communist Party?"[5]

He soon began his lifelong research--some calling it an obsession--on the John Birch Society and by 1980 started requesting files from the FBI seeking to obtain personal information on members of the organization. He eventually obtained the entire file on the John Birch Society, all 12,000 pages from the FBI. From there he branched off into investigating other conservative and nationalist organizations.

It seems like the material I quoted from Metapedia is very similar to your own writings. Just about every element of the text appears in other writings which appear to be yours as well, although I'll note that you characterize yourself today more as an "idealist" growing up than a "liberal". I don't see anything anti-Semitic in the text I quoted, and I would condemn anyone who would suggest that your description of how you became interested in the JBS and other groups reflected anything other than your own personal interest.

I understand now that you have a lifelong interest, and perhaps an obsession with certain aspects of American history, and an obvious sensitivity to what, in your mind, is probably a part of the conspiracies you study. Good luck with your research, the documents you have archived may be of interest to other researchers.

92 posted on 12/26/2013 7:06:43 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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