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To: Nero Germanicus
So if you wanted to get a passport, then a copy of your embossed birth certificate is good enough? They won't ask for their own embossed copy from your state's registrar?

If a copy of an embossed document is used in a court case, doesn't anybody validate that an original embossed document exists, or do they just accept the single sided copy of the front-half of a document as being as good as the entire original document?

-PJ

178 posted on 11/18/2013 8:11:09 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I used a short form, paper, abstract birth certificate with an embossed Seal from my birth county to get my first passport. Then I just used my expiring passport for all subsequent renewals.

You can get a passport without having a birth certificate.
“How to apply for a passport without a birth certificate”
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/apply-passport-birth-certificate-13275.html

As for what courts will accept, it’s up to the judge. In most states a judge can issue a court order for the production of an original birth certificate and the state will provide it; however I have never heard of a judge who wouldn’t accept a Certified Letter of Verification in lieu of receiving a certified copy, from a state Registrar.


179 posted on 11/19/2013 12:17:32 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Political Junkie Too

“If a copy of an embossed document is used in a court case, doesn’t anybody validate that an original embossed document exists, or do they just accept the single sided copy of the front-half of a document as being as good as the entire original document?”

It depends. If you’re an average citizen, your documents have to be validated. If you’re Barack Obama anything goes.


183 posted on 11/19/2013 2:02:01 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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