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Democrats Face Dilemma on the Upton Obamacare Bill
Roll Call ^ | November 11, 2013 | 218 - Emma Dumain

Posted on 11/12/2013 2:46:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Liz
Pelosi lobbied members hard to oppose the bill, even as targeted lawmakers argued that their re-election chances hinged in part on that vote.

She knew.

2 posted on 11/12/2013 3:01:22 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Libloather; GOPJ; sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; ken5050; thouworm
OH HAPPY DAY (CACKLE) Remember FReepers, today's the big day when America is supposed to "find out" how many have enrolled since the lunkheaded rollout.

Rumor has it about 1100 per day have been enrolling---that means it will take (drum roll please) 800 YEARS to get to the numbers lamebrain Obama figured he'd need to sustain the boondoggle-----AND---not a penny will be added to the deficit."

ROTFL.

3 posted on 11/12/2013 3:57:19 AM PST by Liz
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Bump!

Bump!


5 posted on 11/12/2013 4:18:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is only one Bill that can fix this disaster, REPEAL!

Now is the time, if the Bill is voted down, keep bringing it up over and over, until it passes, the closer we get to 2014, the more likely it will pass, let the record constantly show who votes to overthrow the economy.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 5:04:49 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Liz; Cincinatus' Wife; Libloather; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; ken5050; thouworm
RE :”Rumor has it about 1100 per day have been enrolling-—that means it will take (drum roll please) 800 YEARS to get to the numbers lamebrain Obama figured he'd need to sustain the boondoggle-——AND-—not a penny will be added to the deficit.”

I read current count estimates are :
40 to 50 thousand signed up for for federal exchange, private insurance
50 thousand for state exchanges, private insurance
Free medicaid ~ 1.5 million

4 to 5 million cancellations of existing insurance

Obama has some of his campaign organization going door to door, Enroll America President Anne Filipic says her thousands of volunteers will target Hispanic moms to tell their adult children they must sign up to be covered.

‘YES WE CAN!’

7 posted on 11/12/2013 5:15:10 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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Seems ‘navigators’ are helping lowlifes lie to get the best deals on ObamaCare. That should up the numbers. Democrats? Stupid or Criminal... or both?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund


8 posted on 11/12/2013 5:30:59 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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Liz, here’s how dems are pushing the numbers up - they’re telling people to lie on the forms.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund


9 posted on 11/12/2013 5:32:17 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; sickoflibs; Mr. K; MrB; Liz; neverdem

Thanks for the transcript:

From your LINK:

“..........The events of O’Keefe’s video of a Texas navigator site run by the National Urban League are a familiar sight to viewers of his past efforts exposing Medicaid and voter fraud. Government-paid workers supposedly trained to uphold the law advise clients on how to lie on government forms, evade legal requirements, and ignore proper procedures.

“You lie because your premiums will be higher,” one navigator advises an investigator for O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, who tells the worker he sometimes smokes. “Don’t tell them that. Don’t tell ’em.”

The investigator then poses as a low-income worker at a university who has unreported cash income on the side, worrying about how that might affect his premium subsidies. That’s no problem for a navigator, who says, “Don’t get yourself in trouble by declaring it now.”

“Yeah, it didn’t happen,” another navigator says. One more chimes in: “Never report it.”

Records show that the National Urban League was paid $376,000 by the federal government for its Obamacare outreach in Texas.

O’Keefe’s cameras then visit Enroll America, a nationwide nonprofit group that has launched a multi-state grassroots campaign to help millions of Americans sign up for health coverage. Daniel Clayton of Enroll America says the group is “purely nonprofit. It’s not partisan, non-political.” But when Brian Pendleton of Enroll America is introduced at a speaking engagement, Enroll America is described as “the official group for the DNC [Democratic National Committee].”

Enroll America, O’Keefe reports, appears to be sharing data and working directly with an explicitly political group called Battleground Texas, activities that he notes “are prohibited unless certain conditions are met..........”


11 posted on 11/12/2013 6:00:41 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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RE :”Seems ‘navigators’ are helping lowlifes lie to get the best deals on ObamaCare. That should up the numbers. Democrats? Stupid or Criminal... or both?”

I know I saw one where she says to not report unreported cash income to IRS because that will lower the subsidies they will get.

I got a better one.

I tell people that if they don't pay the mandate fine that there is little the IRS is allowed to do about it, per federal law.

12 posted on 11/12/2013 7:12:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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The IRS will figure out a way to collect their fines. You know that sick. Stop telling people not to pay them... we’re not like the creepy liars liberals are... And yeah, some here say it, but you have too much credibility to be pushing that kind of stuff... Don’t want our side to ever become like the scum liberals are. If we don’t like the law because it’s a horror - we need to work to change it.


13 posted on 11/12/2013 10:00:46 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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RE :”The IRS will figure out a way to collect their fines. You know that sick. Stop telling people not to pay them”

Good luck to them, all the Americans who will not meet the requirements would overwhelm them if they don't pay the fine/tax.

Dems made that part of that law very weak specifically to ease their political gain but unfortunately the truth hasn't got out enough yet.

Key parts of Obamacare ONLY work if we comply. Only if we walk into those showers willingly.
Americans need to resist.
Thank God the Founders didn't put English law above all else.

14 posted on 11/12/2013 11:03:09 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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OOOPSS

‘...to ease their political PAIN.’

Not ‘gain’


15 posted on 11/12/2013 11:05:14 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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Check out the O’Keefe video. Democrats lying and breaking the law and no one cares. But if a Republican did that the full force of the Orwellian face grinders would be front and center... marching behind New York Times suck-ups - screaming to expose each and every one one of us.

You know there’s a double standard. You know dems are thugs... why pretend otherwise?


16 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:55 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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RE :”Check out the O’Keefe video. Democrats lying and breaking the law and no one cares. But if a Republican did that the full force of the Orwellian face grinders would be front and center... marching behind New York Times suck-ups - screaming to expose each and every one one of us.
You know there’s a double standard. You know dems are thugs... why pretend otherwise?”

If it was some Republican that no-one knows it might get aired on MSNBC if juicy. Definitely on the Al Sharpton show,

Speaking of not paying taxes, I got a lecture here not long ago for saying I don't send my liberal governor 6% sales tax when I buy from Amazon.

17 posted on 11/12/2013 7:17:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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I thought the video they got getting the Obama-phones had more provocative stuff it in than this one about reporting cash income to IRS (no-one likes the IRS) .

They asked if they could come in every day and get a new free Obama phone and sell them for crack,

And were told ‘no problem’


18 posted on 11/12/2013 7:21:07 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

What did you think of the part where the guy is told to lie about his smoking?


19 posted on 11/12/2013 7:26:44 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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RE :”What did you think of the part where the guy is told to lie about his smoking?”

I thought that was funny. That one was better.

That seems to defeat the purpose of that nanny state clause to discourage us from smoking.

Shows how stupid Dems are.

20 posted on 11/12/2013 7:31:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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