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Why does the government want health exchange enrollment to fail?
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Posted on 11/08/2013 7:43:10 AM PST by JustSurrounded

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To: bergmeid
"I bet they are working hard on a single payer IT system....... In the shadows that is."

I believe it all ready exists and is named Medicare. The Center for Medicare Services(CMS) has workable IT systems that aid in processing eligibility and administering the program in conjunction with contracted private insurance companies.

21 posted on 11/08/2013 8:43:49 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: JustSurrounded

To usher in Soviet Union style doctoring.


22 posted on 11/08/2013 8:47:12 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: JustSurrounded

Wait unil January, when the medcial insurance claims fall into the black hole called Obamacare. No payments.


23 posted on 11/08/2013 8:50:45 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Nahhh I Dont Think So
So you think our government ‘honestly’ couldn't figure out an adequate sign up system in 3 years? Are you thinking that making is work was somebodyelse's problem, that they had the grand idea, got it passed, and implementation details are just too trivial to bother with? Healthcare has been ‘organized’, time to move on?
24 posted on 11/08/2013 8:54:11 AM PST by JustSurrounded (And for Christmas this year we get amnesty for the locust people.)
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To: JustSurrounded

It’s designed to fail. Those who will enroll have a strong reason for putting up with the hassle... pre-existing conditions or no other way to get coverage. The healthy don’t have this incentive and certainly don’t want increased premiums. What happens when healthy people fail to enroll and you only get hard-to-insure customers you can’t refuse? You get a negative risk pool for the insurance companies and America fundamentally transforms its healthcare model.


25 posted on 11/08/2013 8:57:02 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Single Payer - go to the DMV and get a dose of what your healthcare will be like. Deal with the rude, arrogant, Big Bro goons and that’s the environment your healthcare will become. In other words, you will become a slave/pawn of the government to do with as they wish.


26 posted on 11/08/2013 8:57:07 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Single-payer is the simple and only solution left in the bag....however, there are some amusing issues.

You have to set Medicare-pricing limits on just about everything, and hospitals and doctors are very determined that this not go into effect. It’d trigger a large segment of folks to just say they’ve done enough in life, and retire early.

Added to this is the problem of denying people procedures. It’s also a part of single payer. But the nifty deal is that we will sue in court...claim damages....and bankrupt the system in less than eight years.

With Plan A and Plan B out of action....it’s hard to say where we go then.


27 posted on 11/08/2013 9:35:09 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: JustSurrounded

No, they couldn’t figure it out in the three yea... scratch that, 3 MONTHS they had to set it up

Remember, the Feds were never going to be making a site until after the Court ruled the States didn’t have to expand Medicaid. And even after that they didn’t want to let all the Republicans know exactly what needed to go into the law.

Plus, you have to remember that much of the systems problems come not from the website they designed, but instead because said website much contact computer systems from a bunch more organizations (IRS, Medicare/Medicaid, etc) - some of which are more then 20 years old!

Lastly, remember this is a party that is still too dumb to realize increasing the MinWage merely costs people jobs and raises the cost of living. They are like a moron trying to run thru a wall and getting knocked on their rear, but still getting up to try it a second, third, forth, fifth and on and on, time

To think this is intentional one needs to assume they are smart enough to pull it off - despite all evidence we have indicating they can merely come up with theories they believe will work but never take into account the millions of variables or peoples tendencies in a logical way.

At this point, the only thing we have evidence of them doing at a high level is their being able to bus people to voting booths pretty well, or fill out phoney ballots on behalf of others. Everything else they do always ends in an epic fail (see Detroit for the most glaring example)


28 posted on 11/08/2013 9:37:31 AM PST by Nahhh I Dont Think So
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To: JustSurrounded

ping


29 posted on 11/08/2013 9:45:12 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: JustSurrounded

I have a different take, to get all the retirees money back into the system out of savings. a insurance failure would cause cash and savings to be used to pay the medical bills.


30 posted on 11/08/2013 11:47:59 AM PST by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: JustSurrounded

control over who lives and who dies and who suffers.


31 posted on 11/08/2013 6:48:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: JustSurrounded
The initial failure of healthcare.gov was entirely predictable, and requires no dark partisan musings to explain. The federal government has a multi-decade track record of doing an absolutely terrible job supervising large scale information technology projects. My guess is healthcare.gov will be "working" to spec within a few months, and if so that will be remarkable success. Legendary IT screw ups, including the FBI data system, the Joint Strike Fighter code base, the Navy IT system, etc., have meant years of delays and hundreds of millions of dollars of wasted expenditures.

There's a good reason why the computer systems that truly cannot be permitted to fail, like those of the IRS, the FAA, etc., were built up slowly over decades and have never attempted anything like a rapid or complete turnover, and rely more upon the steady hand of SES heads of IT and GS-14 and -15 senior programmers who have been at it since they were GS-7 mainframe operators in the 1980s, than $1500-suited MBA at consulting firms supervising 26-year-old programmers who aren't good enough to get jobs at Google or Facebook.
32 posted on 11/08/2013 6:59:57 PM PST by only1percent
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So, why the web page as THE way to access the system if you're serious about getting people enrolled? The gov’t isn't new to large projects, as you know. They have plenty of historical data to look to. Why not paper forms and booklets of instructions and charts? And why assume everyone has a computer and web access? We don't even assume everyone has an ID.

As I understand it, feds aren't adding service at this point, they're just a gateway to existing services with subsidies rolled in. Send the paper forms on to the selected insurance company for entry. Or even better, once you've picked a plan, enroll with that insurer directly.

It seems they made it way more complicated than it needed to be.

33 posted on 11/09/2013 3:47:43 AM PST by JustSurrounded (And for Christmas this year we get amnesty for the locust people.)
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