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Social conservatives’ enduring myth: Women just want to stay home
Salon ^ | October 31, 2013 | Elizabeth Stoker and Matt Bruenig

Posted on 10/31/2013 6:52:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Whenever I read this sort of ill informed juvenile pap, I picture the writers sitting in women's studies classes.

They don't know how to think.

They have no understanding of history.

They've been programmed to believe they are victims and that men are predators.

They can't see that it's the socialists that they champion who are ones who have stolen their freedoms and the fruits of their labor.

And they always feel the need to tell everyone else how they should live their lives.

1 posted on 10/31/2013 6:52:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think of grill cheese sammiches being served with tea by a log legged femme in fishnet hose :)


2 posted on 10/31/2013 6:55:19 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep, idiotic article. Conservatives don’t want women to stay home....necessarily....we want the women in our lives to have the choice. Period. What’s so hard about that?


3 posted on 10/31/2013 6:56:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“naturally predisposed to derive satisfaction from “being domestic and shaping lives” rather than from labor market work”

Most anthropologists will agree with this statement. It has a truckload of evidence. Looking back, cultures across vast gulfs of time and distance have all had a division of labor between men and women roughly as described by Gavin.


4 posted on 10/31/2013 6:59:25 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh, Lordy, where to begin?

Liberals are so confused.

Reminds me of Reagan’s line, “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”


5 posted on 10/31/2013 7:05:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

None of the women I know want to stay at home.

They all want to go out shopping.


6 posted on 10/31/2013 7:05:28 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another point that the author of this crap misses is that the real reason that many men cannot earn enough income to support a family is PRECISELY that there are now more women in the workforce than there were in the 50’s and 60’s. There was a large influx of women into the workforce. This increased the supply of labor without a corresponding increase in the demand for labor. When you increase supply without an increase in demand, the price falls; basic economics.


7 posted on 10/31/2013 7:07:17 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

With a first sentence like that, there’s no point in reading on. They are announcing up front that only their ideological compatriots should read the essay.


8 posted on 10/31/2013 7:07:29 AM PDT by babble-on
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I remember an entertaining movie from 1979 called "Time After Time" It was a variation on H.G. Wells' novel "The Time Machine". In the movie, Wells actually has a real time machine like the one described in the novel. One of his friends turns out to secretly be Jack the Ripper. He uses the time machine to go to the future to escape capture. The time machine returns to Wells, who uses it to follow the Ripper before he wreaks havoc on modern-day San Fransicko.

The point of this long-winded post: Wells meets and falls in love with a woman he meets in modern San Fran. He asks her to come back with him to Victorian England; but she balks because she doesn't want to "leave her career". Her "career" is "bank teller". It's always struck me as funny how they preach that "women should have a career". Apparently, repetitive drudgery is a career all should aspire to.

9 posted on 10/31/2013 7:08:06 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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Back in the good old days, a man could earn enough for his family so that his wife could stay home and take care of their children. Children grew up to be civilized and not drug-addled perpetual adolescents who were unfit for adulthood.

But Greedy Government started pillaging family finances, and the foolish feminists bought the government’s line that working outside the home equaled freedom, an exact copy of the German’s concentration camp motto, “Arbeit macht frei.”

So now, mothers and fathers work, with about half the money of both going to the family’s survival and the other half going to the local, state, and federal governments who suck up the rest so their execs can live large in state capitals and the five counties around Washington D.C. And in this arrangement, children are the biggest losers. No wonder so many are so damaged.


10 posted on 10/31/2013 7:08:43 AM PDT by txrefugee
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I think of grill cheese sammiches being served with tea by a log legged femme in fishnet hose :)

Don't laugh; a woman friend of mine actually had something almost identical said to her in marriage counseling by her soon-to-be-ex-husband. She's always been a good conservative, but she dumped him and started a business that supported her and her offspring. That's choice.

But then, the economy was friendly to small business at that time. Now, nobody has as much choice about anything.

11 posted on 10/31/2013 7:09:46 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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Not to mention some more basic economics. Once there were two income households, those households could afford to spend more on housing, food and other necessities. That increased prices of these items so that one income households no longer could afford them. Think about it, if you are selling your house and a two-income family offers $250,000 for it, but a single income family can only offer $150,000 for it, who are you selling to?


12 posted on 10/31/2013 7:10:18 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the Netherlands routinely scores highly on global surveys of happiness and well-being

Yay! Unchecked Muslim immigration! Yay! Knives plunged into filmmakers' chests! Yay!

Have a nice day!

13 posted on 10/31/2013 7:11:38 AM PDT by relictele ("An elective despotism was not the government we fought for..." - James Madison)
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“it’s economic necessity with the GOP-shredded safety net”

What is this fantasy? Do they really think that the only way single income households worked is because everyone in the country was on government assistance?


14 posted on 10/31/2013 7:12:25 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Yea, when I want to understand Conservatives, I go to Salon. /sar
When I want to learn about militant homosexual activism, I go to Salon and skip the hair styling.


15 posted on 10/31/2013 7:12:36 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: babble-on

i stopped reading at “GOP-shredded safety net “


16 posted on 10/31/2013 7:15:04 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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Yeah, when the heck did the GOP shred the safety net? The last Republican President added a large new entitlement program. The only “shredding” I can even think of in recent memory was welfare reform, which of course was implemented during the administration of a Democrat. This “shredding” has been mostly reversed by the current administration. Are there now more people able to afford to have a single income?

Just as a comparison, pre-New Deal the safety net did not really exist. There was no Social Security, Medicare, Unemployment, etc. Compare the percentage of households with one income then vs. now. At which time were there more single income households? A much better case could be made that the safety net caused a reduction in the ability of a household to survive on one income.


17 posted on 10/31/2013 7:20:47 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

some women want to stay home and tend the family
some women want to work

what’s the controversy?

as far as “economic necessity” goes, there is none anymore in our recently-Transformed Amerika. nowadays, anybody (women, men, or Obama types) can just sit on their asses and watch Oprah reruns all day (courtesy of the fast-disappearing “working class” and the Communist Chinese buying USA bonds -— and the Chinese are already figuring out this Ponzi scheme so..... it ain’t gonna last forever, gang.... it ain’t gonna last forever..)


18 posted on 10/31/2013 7:23:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
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It’s in the government programs that fill in enormous expense gaps, leaving Dutch women financially able to fit work into their lives rather than their lives into work.

The stupid it burns. The writer does not understand that its the cost of the government programs that cause the expense gaps in the first place.

19 posted on 10/31/2013 7:24:50 AM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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Yep. They sure do.


20 posted on 10/31/2013 7:28:01 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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