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The Flaw in ObamaCare Points to Its Future Failure: It’s Time to Propose Real Alternatives
PJ Media ^ | October 23, 2013 | Ron Radosh

Posted on 10/23/2013 11:02:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 10/23/2013 11:02:53 AM PDT by Kaslin
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might I suggest the government butting out?


2 posted on 10/23/2013 11:04:34 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To “start all over” is to admit that NOTHING was learned from the disastrous, mandatory Nationalization of 1/6 th of America’s Economy.

Are any of us FReepers really that STUPID ?!


3 posted on 10/23/2013 11:05:31 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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A FREE MARKET - WITHOUT CARTELS.


4 posted on 10/23/2013 11:07:12 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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People who favored it thought they’d be getting free health care. What they are getting is gobbledygook and paying double or triple for the privilege.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 11:07:29 AM PDT by marron
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Are you one of the exempted elites, or are you going to be forced to eat the excrement at IRS gunpoint?

Please save, copy, share everywhere.

6 posted on 10/23/2013 11:13:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

pre-Obama we had the best health system in the world - the best system in the history of the world IMO. Throw out everything done since Obama took over; expand Medicaid to take over the problem areas and let the market place work.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 11:15:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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B-b-but that would drive costs down and we don’t want that!!! Look how horrible car insurance turned out when it went on the free market: 10 billion Geico, Allstate, Prudential, Progressive commercials a day begging you to name your own price, anyyything but *please* don’t go to our competitors! Have an accident and we will reward you! How horrible!


8 posted on 10/23/2013 11:16:09 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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Its a good thing that Obama hasnt found a way to open that National Motel Chain yet...

” Im Barack Obama... and we’ll turn the Lights Out For Ya.”


9 posted on 10/23/2013 11:18:29 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: elpadre

The Obamaware failure joins F&F, AP, IRS, NSA, Benghazi, in the Pantheon of Phony Scandals that Obama KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.


10 posted on 10/23/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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Alternatives? How’s about the government get the hell out of the way and quit over regulating in the PRIVATE sector and we quit paying for illegals at every turn.


11 posted on 10/23/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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How about National Commerce of private healthcare insurance. I rarely hear anybody
talk about doing this. Is it some kind of Taboo death sentence for politicians?
12 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:19 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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How about scaling back insurance companies. HMOs, PPOs, managed care, Obamacare are all cartels.

Health care is not health insurance. Health care used to be less expensive until the insurance companies’ desire for more profit drove the creation of HMOs, etc. They’ve destroyed the free market for decades, substituting “capitation” and “managed care” for “fee for service” and indemnity.... Price fixing cartels and government “exchanges” are not a free market.


13 posted on 10/23/2013 12:10:04 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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There is also the major issue of over regulation by the states, but that's a state issue.
We need the Feds out of everything accept our national security.
14 posted on 10/23/2013 12:13:42 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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Indeed. The Texas model. Tort reform plus allowing buying insurance across state lines. This has been proven to lower costs of both premiums and healthcare by 30%, and caused a huge influx of doctors to the state.

Those who can’t afford their insurance can appeal to their church to help out with the premiums.

Problem solved. There’s the “alternative”.


15 posted on 10/23/2013 12:16:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MaxMax

Pretty much! And yes: fire Boehner NOW.


16 posted on 10/23/2013 12:17:59 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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To: MrB

Catastrophic and/or general indemnity, no HMOs PPOs etc.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 12:19:46 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
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Pre-tax HSAs and catastrophic insurance would work for the majority of people, insuring far more than any socialist health insurance “exchange” system.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 12:21:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
This is not a convincing article at all to me, with numerous poorly-chosen examples. For example: "And can you imagine the people who run the failing U.S. Postal Service creating the bureaucracy that will administer Medicare for all"

What on earth does the USPS have to do with it? And actually the post office does deliver its product pretty reliably; their financial problems are due to pension obligations and falling demand, not incompetence .

19 posted on 10/23/2013 12:21:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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That would probably help


20 posted on 10/23/2013 12:23:24 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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