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1 posted on 10/23/2013 1:36:16 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Travis McGee

Now it is becoming public knowledge that the “programs” are officially numbered, sanctioned by departments in both the government and local police jurisdictions...

Adding that there is more than enough fraud and abuse of the equipment, funds and other uses of this equipment that the govenrment is trying to offload at taxpayers expense “again”...

Same old story, just more information on other aspects of this issue...

Obviously we are only scratching the surface of what they want, or not want, us to know about...

Bear in mind the name of the program...Something you might be able to Google in the future...


2 posted on 10/23/2013 1:41:39 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

We need a kinder and gentler police force. where not everybody is required to be armed. We need less swat and more beat cops.


3 posted on 10/23/2013 1:49:57 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: stevie_d_64

I was driving home from work yesterday and noticed a sign on the side of the road that said, “Police Training ahead”. There were 2 of those armored vehicles painted flat black and lots of guys with military style weapons and uniforms conducting some kind of training in the parking lot of what used to be a bank. I understand that the police need to train but this was in a relatively conspicuous area near a busy intersection. Why do it there at 3:00 in the afternoon during rush hour? Has anyone else ever seen a sign that reads, “Police Training ahead”. I haven’t; and I’ve never seen anything like this in my life. This is an odd thing to see especially in Vancouver (Orchards) Washington.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 2:06:41 AM PDT by not_under_duress
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To: stevie_d_64

Defund the police.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 2:11:54 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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If you Google, or Yahell “Pentagon’s 1033 Program”

And manage to sift through and not get bogged down in the conspiracy theory rut, there is a lot to be gained in reading between the lines and begin to ask valid, non-conspiracy theory laden questions...

For it to be initially labeled as “free” surplus is such a kook hook, its not even funny...none of this stuff is ever given away from free...The grants these departments wrote to get money to convert, maintain and operate this surplus equipment is where the money is...

Our districts down here have bought more Army heavy “high water” vehicles for flooding emergencies than other places I have heard that have the same problem...The upkeep, conversion, paint-jobs and storage of these vehicles is not cheap...And all we are talking about there are trucks...Not your sexy MRAP’s for the “jazz-seekers” who wanna look cool ebfore they are really needed for controlling the public during civil disturbances...etc etc etc...

A simple question that needs to always and never let up on is this...

What are these MRAP’s to be used for??? And what justifies us keeping them active, and not under some temporary contract if we only need them for “warrant duty”...

But you have to have politicians with the political courage to question these potential aquisistions with realistic expectations and caution those who want these things without question...

A rarity these days...


20 posted on 10/23/2013 2:49:21 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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Example of what can go wrong with things like this. Small town cops getting a chance to play big-city SWAT bada##es ...

"THE RAID

At about 2 p.m. members of the team, including the nine stack members, dressed in body armor and wearing helmets, left the Easton EMS offices about two and a half miles from Dogwood Drive. Chief Solomon and the team leaders drove off in sports utility vehicles while the rest of the officers boarded their large armored transport. Instead of climbing inside, several of the men chose to stand on the transport's running boards.

The team headed up Sports Hill Road, men in helmets and armor hanging off the tank-like vehicle. As they rolled into the quiet neighborhood residents either ran into their homes in terror or let curiosity get the better of them, according to police reports. One woman followed the two snipers as they got off the transport and moved into the woods near Terebesi's house"
25 posted on 10/23/2013 3:15:43 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: stevie_d_64

Next brain stem compliance implants for new officers


26 posted on 10/23/2013 3:16:56 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: stevie_d_64

America’s rural militias should get dibs on this equipment, have our future warriors grow up around this equipment. The armed highway robbers in blue are useless when it comes to risking their retirement at 50 plans. They have to get home safely to work on their biceps.


30 posted on 10/23/2013 3:55:47 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: stevie_d_64

I remember conversations in here about whether or not local police would help Obama when the SHTF.

They will, believe me.

They will enforce confiscation and they will enforce incarceration. Believe it.

Police officers are a fraternity, when they become LEO’s they forget where they came from, they are now separate from us. They no longer even trust their closest friend, and most have no close friends unless it is other officers.


34 posted on 10/23/2013 4:30:08 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Pretty soooon.........they will have to figure out whose side they’re on.


38 posted on 10/23/2013 4:55:06 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: stevie_d_64

“.....at practically no cost.”

A thread on FR yesterday stated that it would cost $250,000 for a local police department to maintain a MRAP for one year. I’d say the cost is quite high, in more ways than one.


54 posted on 10/23/2013 6:03:20 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: stevie_d_64

We bought our sheriff a WWII amphibious landing vehicle for use if the bridge to a peninsula went down. The sheriff can also draw on his 2,000 man volunteer auxiliary deputy battalion during “emergencies.”

Elect a constitutional sheriff and you don’t need to worry about rogue cops.


55 posted on 10/23/2013 6:03:22 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: stevie_d_64
Ever can has it's opener.

/johnny

59 posted on 10/23/2013 6:25:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stevie_d_64

“To Serve and Protect” is now “To snoop and Intimidate” we’re fast becoming a police state.


61 posted on 10/23/2013 7:02:42 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: stevie_d_64

SCARY, SCARY stuff.

The National Guard is the one military force CLOSEST to the people. The police establishment is a union-controlled conclave of special interest groups and Obama is steadily gathering personal control over the regular military forces.


63 posted on 10/23/2013 7:34:41 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: stevie_d_64
I grew up watching "Officer Joe Bolton" on TV after school, introducing Dick Tracy and The Three Stooges.

They're not your grandfather's police officers anymore!

-PJ

68 posted on 10/23/2013 8:58:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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