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Keystone already pipes oil to US
The Citizen ^ | October 15, 2013 | Merrill Matthews

Posted on 10/17/2013 5:38:13 AM PDT by thackney

Here’s a little-known fact: The Keystone pipeline system has been transporting oil sands from Canada to U.S. refineries in the Midwest for three years — with no major leaks and, more importantly, no major complaints from environmentalists.

The Keystone pipeline project includes four phases. The Keystone XL that has received so much media attention is only the last phase.

Phase 1 has been operating since 2010, carrying oil from Alberta across three Canadian provinces and six states to refineries in Illinois. Phase 2 put a link connecting the Phase 1 pipeline from Steele City, Nebraska, to Cushing, Oklahoma, a major U.S. oil refining and storage hub. It went operational two years ago, again with no major problems or complaints.

Phase 3 is currently under construction, extending the pipeline from Cushing to the Gulf refineries in Texas. President Obama even gave a speech in Cushing in March 2012 — during his reelection bid — praising the pipeline extension as good for the economy.

The Keystone XL, the proposed Phase 4, would build a separate pipeline from Alberta, crossing only three states (Montana, South Dakota and Nebraska), and connecting to the existing pipeline in Steel City

While the Keystone XL would have the capacity to deliver more oil — 830,000 barrels a day vs. 590,000 for Phase 1 — its U.S. footprint is more than 200 miles shorter than Phase 1.

Environmentalists complained that Phase 4 would transport oil across environmentally sensitive areas of Nebraska. Governor Dave Heineman expressed similar concerns. So the pipeline builder, TransCanada Corp., has proposed to reroute the pipeline, which satisfied the governor and the Nebraska legislature. Even the U.S. State Department has said the risks are minimal.

One reason TransCanada located the Phase 4 route where it did was to transport up to 100,000 barrels a day of U.S. crude oil from the Bakken reserves in North Dakota and Montana. That means the Keystone XL would be shipping high-quality U.S. oil to U.S. refineries.

Mr. Obama has recently turned defensive, claiming that the pipeline won’t create many permanent jobs. But pipeline jobs are infrastructure jobs, and the president is promoting more infrastructure spending to create jobs.

Phases 1 and 2 directly employed nearly 9,000 workers on U.S. facilities and pipelines. Phase 3 currently employees about 4,000 workers. Those aren’t debatable projections; those are real Americans working at high-wage jobs. And the pipeline jobs won’t cost the government a dime. In fact, the government will gain revenue from them.

The Keystone XL is also a trade-deficit reducer. News reports say that the U.S. trade deficit declined by 22 percent in the last quarter, primarily due to importing less oil. Rejecting the XL means that much of that Canadian oil will be shipped to China for refining instead. And seeing that oil go elsewhere when foreign hot spots like Syria can drive up oil prices or threaten supplies is not a good idea.

Unfortunately, environmentalists don’t seem to care about the Keystone XL’s economic merits. They have decided to draw a line in the oil sand at Phase 4. But surely they know that the U.S. leads the world in refining. If Canadian oil is going to be refined, and it is, better to do it under U.S. standards and quality controls. And U.S. workers get the benefits.

The fact is that the Keystone XL pipeline is simply an extension of an already existing program that is working well, creating jobs and expanding U.S. manufacturing. It should be an easy, and quick, decision for any president concerned about the economy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: energy; keystonexl; oil; pipeline

1 posted on 10/17/2013 5:38:13 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

Thanks for the post. This is the first time I have seen this debacle in perspective. Now this makes even more sense to build the pipeline.


2 posted on 10/17/2013 7:26:56 AM PDT by Techster
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To: thackney
Could they not build a parallel pipeline that parallels the existing one until it get's to Regina Canada and then down ? then pick up at Baker Montana go east then pick up and go parallel the rest of the way ?
Or build a parallel pipeline and send smaller spurs out from Baker, Bismark, and Pierre east to the larger pipeline ?
3 posted on 10/17/2013 4:13:44 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
Could they not build a parallel pipeline that parallels the existing one until it get's to Regina Canada and then down ? Etc

Aside from making the route longer (and more expensive), what would that accomplish?

4 posted on 10/17/2013 4:25:19 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Do you mean to build multiple lines but leave a bottle neck at the border that still limits the throughput to the current flow?


5 posted on 10/18/2013 2:52:07 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
If they won't let them build it from Hardisty Canada on through Baker onto Steel City then find a way to work around that.
Build a parallel line from Hardisty to Steel City and then build spurs going west to those critical areas.
Or build it farther east between Baker and the main line away from those suppose " environmentally sensitive areas " and build spurs to those areas.
Yes, I know more cost but what other options do they have if Nero says Nyet ?
Improvise, adapt, overcome.
6 posted on 10/18/2013 7:49:02 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: okie01
What if Nero says Nyet ? then what ?
Improvise, adapt, overcome.
What is the back up plan ?
Obie is the one who is making this project more difficult and expensive.
7 posted on 10/18/2013 7:54:25 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
If they won't let them build it from Hardisty Canada on through Baker onto Steel City then find a way to work around that.

The bottleneck is the border crossing.

8 posted on 10/18/2013 7:55:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Please go more in length in details on that.
What is the monkey wrench that is causing problems there ?
Border crossing ? forgive me of my technical ignorance on that but how is that caused ? different size of pipe ?
Logistics ?
Can only pump so much at that location through that pipe ?

9 posted on 10/18/2013 8:00:14 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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Obama isn't going to approve any Keystone plan. It's not the route, it's the pipeline and its oil that he and his environmentalist-wacko supporters object to.
10 posted on 10/18/2013 8:13:21 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: American Constitutionalist
What is the monkey wrench that is causing problems there ?

Can only pump so much at that location through that pipe ?

Exactly. The primary point of the Keystone XL is to put a second pipeline with additional capacity to come from Canada to the US.

11 posted on 10/18/2013 8:19:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: okie01
Here's what the article says:

" Here’s a little-known fact: The Keystone pipeline system has been transporting oil sands from Canada to U.S. refineries in the Midwest for three years — with no major leaks and, more importantly, no major complaints from environmentalists. "

Most of it has been built already so the sticking part is this last 4th phase of it, the route that this secondary line is suppose to take.
12 posted on 10/18/2013 8:19:48 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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the route that this secondary line is suppose to take

The route was already moved out of the Sandhills region that was the last objection. They still will not approve the line that would move an additional 830,000 barrels per day.

13 posted on 10/18/2013 8:24:48 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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What are the possible back up plans if Nero the monkey says Nyet to the Keystone XL project ?
Work around the propaganda of those supposed " Environmentally sensitive " areas ?
I am just thinking outside the box in ways to work around this manmade intentional commie road block to the Keystone XL project.

SAVE THE PIPELINES !

SAVE THE PIPELINES BEFORE THEY ARE EXTINCT AND GONE FOREVER !
14 posted on 10/18/2013 8:27:35 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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" They still will not approve the line that would move an additional 830,000 barrels per day. "

And they shall not have that.....

So what are the positives and benefits for America if that were to come to pass ?
The US economy get's a huge boost and prices on everything including production costs, raw materials goes down ?
The price of gasoline, heating fuel, diesel goes down ?
15 posted on 10/18/2013 8:30:31 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

Oil is a globally priced commodity. A pipeline alone only moves oil in the cheapest manner. It does not create a new oil supply by itself.

It does provide a more secure source of oil than tankers from overseas.

It does provide more domestic jobs, both in construction and in operations/maintenance. With that comes more tax dollars.

It does help Canadian oil producers more financial incentive to expand their production by providing lower cost means of transporting their product to market.

Price impact to american consumer will be negligible, unless OPEC decides to lower their production some more.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 8:39:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I should have added it supplies a product we are going to purchase regardless in the safest manner. Pipeline spill less oil and cause few deaths/injuries than ship/barge, truck or rail.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 8:42:45 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: American Constitutionalist
What are the possible back up plans if Nero the monkey says Nyet to the Keystone XL project ?

The same thing that has been happening in the 5 years that NObama has been reviewing it. Increased rail traffic of crude oil with higher cost and risk. But that is good for the Warren Buffett controlled Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway.

18 posted on 10/18/2013 8:58:39 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Most of it has been built already so the sticking part is this last 4th phase of it, the route that this secondary line is suppose to take

They said the "sticking point" was the route thru the Nebraska Sandhills. Which, by the way, already has several pipelines running across them.

Keystone has since agreed to re-route the pipeline around the Sandhills -- but Obama has still refused to approve the new route!

What does that tell you?

It should tell you that the problem is not the environmentally blessed Sandhills -- but the pipeline itself and the additional oil it would carry from Alberta and the Bakken to the Gulf Coast. Plus the additional economic activity the project would engender.

Given that, why would he approve the even longer parallel route you're proposing?

19 posted on 10/18/2013 2:30:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
Yes Sir'ree, that's the Kenyan King way and the way he wants it.
It's as if America wandering through the desert without anyway and bring it to it's knees.
It will be a miracle if America survives his last term in office and then some, years after he is out of office America will have to be picking up the pieces.

20 posted on 10/19/2013 9:26:27 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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