Posted on 10/14/2013 3:13:03 PM PDT by The Working Man
I used the term spotter so that people would realize this guy wasn’t out there alone. In the middle of winter hiking in rough country or any country with no backup is near suicidal.
Two people give them both a better chance of getting to where they need to go and surviving long enough to do the ‘mission’.
You’re welcome.
thanks
There was a significant outage in the Pacific Northwest a few years ago caused by a hot (summertime heatwave) wire sagging into a tree and shorting.
Ping.
I have a lever action 30 30 - I think it is pretty accurate to hundred yards or two
a 30 06 would be great when you want to reach out and touch someone from 5 or 6 hundred yards
best to have one of each
Be careful of tragic boating accidents
I used to have a couple of each until the canoe incident.
A scope on that rifle is a waste of time and money.
A .30 caliber rifle is not a brush gun. A .44 magnum is a brush gun. In its day the .30-30 was considered a "flat shooter".
You may be Superman, but mere mortals like me are much more accurate at 100 yards with a scope than with open sights. I have a 4X scope on a Marlin .30-30 and greatly appreciate its help.
Reticle, not reticule.
Yes, you are correct, that was pointed out to me earlier.
Yes a brush gun and I really like mine.
Have a friend that shoots one loaded with the Hornady FTX Leverevolution bullets. That is a 160gr rubber tipped ballistic bullet that increases the accuracy and range a great deal. Will not make a 30-30 a 30-06, but will make it effective out to 250 or possibly 300 yards.
I bought some of those bullets for my model 71 .348 Winchester. It is the big big brother of the 30-30 much longer ranged but kicks like a mule. The old standard load was a Barnes 250 grain bullet, the Hornady FTX is a 200gr rubber tipped ballistic bullet.
Neither gun is shabby in the right hands. I use peep sights on both. No scope.
I’m finding it very interesting that other than Dynoman pointing out the Electrical grid ‘impossibilities’ that no one has commented on even the remote possibility of such a scenario or how to deal with the DHS ‘Donation’ Raids.
So what is it? Is it impossible to imagine the U.S. Government deciding to ‘rid itself’ of half the population of ‘Useless Eaters’ and Mal-contents to the current ‘regime’ in power? Is it impossible to imagine that by doing so that the possibility of eliminating the populace of Fly-over country and packing the remaining populace into the easily controlled cities?
What I see is nit-picking over details, 30-30, Spotter, Electrical Grid sabotage, that sort of thing.
I’m not sure what to think here, We are asked over and over again to think of SHTF scenarios and how we would deal with them. Well here’s one, with the addition of the ultimate ‘looter class’ the Government and it’s own forces collecting the items most people needed to survive a SHTF scenario. No Food — That was taken under the Anti-hoarding Laws. No Weapons aka Firearms — those were taken under the FEMA Emergency Management Law.
Gasoline — Modern American rely exclusively on powered transport. No Gas and you are reduced to walking, no gas and you can’t operate a Chainsaw to cut firewood. How many people have an axe anymore? And you can only take what you can carry or pull along in a cart or wheelbarrow if you are forced to leave your home.
Things like that... and I don’t see any comments about what could be done.
There you go. Where’s my ping?
“A scope on that rifle is a waste of time and money.”
Not necessarily. That gun’s effective range stretches out to 150 yards, easy. 200 is not out of the realm of possibility
Can you see better with or without magnification at 150-200 yards, especially in the types of brushy conditions that you might be talking about? 3x magnification might be the difference between realizing you have a shot or you don’t.
I live in what is basically the .30-30 capital of the world, since it is mountainous here, without a lot of long distance sight-lines. Lots of people here have .30-30’s and lots of people have them scoped.
There you go. Where’s my ping?
Uhhh... Ping
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All “they” need to do is lose one detail-member in each town, either dead or grievously wounded, and their enthusiasm is going to drop rather quickly.
See Solzhenitsyn.
I work in the power industry, I did like your story. I’m getting pretty sensitive about inaccuracies, like what someone posted on here a month or so ago, some conspiracy theory about the government shutting down the grid. It’s strange in a way, I read many conspiracy books 30 years ago, None Dare Call It Treason, Fabian Freeway, etc. All about the trilateral commission, Bildenbergers, the shadow government. Read “Say No to the New World” Order at least 25 years ago. Well none of what was predicted came to pass. So now I’m a skeptic when it comes to that kind of thing.
All “they” need to do is lose one detail-member in each town, either dead or grievously wounded, and their enthusiasm is going to drop rather quickly.
See Solzhenitsyn.
Good point! I did mention their families were being held hostage for their own ‘good’ behavior. If they can’t get near enough to rescue them then they have very little choice in continuing on. Plus I can see the ‘ruthlessness’ towards any resistance skyrocketing. Remember the people they are re-leaving of their possessions are intended to die off anyway.
Still though, Solzhenitsyn was right I believe.
If you were to have a good mix of guns for any occasion, what would you have?
I like a Rossi Circuit judge (several of them)- it is a rifle made like a revolver handgun - it can shoot 410 shotgun OR .45 cal bullets (is that cool, or what?) and for home defense you won’t take out a structural wall with it. Besides, 410 shells are so darn cute I just wanna eat em’ up
a 30 30 rifle for hunting and 30 06 for long range hunting
a 12 gauge pump action (the noise scares intruders away before you even have to shoot) with bird shot and some deer slugs.
and a 22 rifle (cheapest ammo for target, small varmints, all around plinking)
If the zombie apocalypse comes the Rossi can be modified to make your own handgun - but that would be highly illegal and you should not do it EXCEPT during a zombie apocalypse
Any one have any thoughts on what I might now have covered?
There isn’t really one gun for every situation
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