[sickoflibs]

RE :”We will win this battle. obama has painted himself into a corner and when he does capitulate it will only be the start of dismantling obamacare.”

So by capitulate you meaning getting the Senate to pass a defund or delay CR that he signs?

[wmfights]

So by capitulate you meaning getting the Senate to pass a defund or delay CR that he signs?

Yes.

We will know we've won the field when they respond with just the medical device tax cut, then the Pubs have to come back and win the battle.

The Rats have over played their hand. The market might decline. The press will blame the Pubs no matter what. The Pubs in DC will get uncomfortable questions and the media will play up how some govt employee is being hurt. However, give it a couple weeks, or even a month, and people will see we can function without them, then the Pubs win!