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To: pgkdan
These kind if comments make me very uneasy about this pope.

Same here. If I said this kind of thing to my priest I'd get a very energetic lecture. Probably with a reminder that the Holy Father is not infallible at ALL times.

56 posted on 09/14/2013 4:48:26 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

Of course he’s not infallible in all things. In fact he’s wrong here. Just flat out wrong.


57 posted on 09/14/2013 7:43:44 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: HomeAtLast
Just my opinion, of course, but the Catholic church is about finished as we know it. They may go on pretending, but in reality, it's been over for awhile and the laity is still carrying the water. Looking back for the last few years of my posts, you would see the frustration in the leadership of the church bending and swaying to politics. This pope had to come on the trajectory we have been in for decades now. I've been mumbling about the number of Catholics voting Dem as we fight abortion and sodomy, but to no avail because the church has sold out to food stamps and illegal aliens. IMO, the church has prostituted itself for more bennies. IN Boston and other NE liberal precincts, Kennedy, Kerry, Biden, Pelosi, et al, are continually elected and supported by the church. If Catholics wanted to send a message, they could have at least turned on Barney Frank over his career. I agree much of this comes from Jesuit education, but the church accepted this in their ranks to the point we now have a Jesuit pope. Just take a look at the world church and you find the same thing from S America, Europe, and Africa. Maybe a little less from Asia.

I won't drone on forever, but I'm just sick that I have been warning of this forever and was flamed by the die hard laity that refused to see what was coming. The leadership of the church has been flaming libtards for decades and the rest of us have been in denial. The real question now is how long will the laity stay asleep? I don't think we want to let Jesus see where we are right now and the true Christians are the only cure for this. IMO, The church is finished as we will not voice displeasure with anything from Rome. Decisions need to be made for our own salvation. Staying with a fallen church won't save you. More weak knee'd statements are surly on the way. Women priests, married priests,...all the wish list from the Cafeteria are now on their way. It just takes time to completely fall to the deepest depths of the ditch.

For a pope to make this type of statement, for me anyway, just confirms what I'm saying. There should be NO ambiguity, in a salvation statement. It's written plainly in Scripture. An atheist has NO chance for Salvation unless he confesses Jesus and repents. In that case, he is no longer an atheist, just as a Muslim or Hindu, or Buddhist must repent and confess Jesus as Lord and Savior. To introduce the pope's verbiage into the conversation is just confusing to non believers. We can claim he was misunderstood and try to walk it back as much as we want, but it's really too late. The cardinals and bishops will try to cover for their choice, but really, it's a done deal. Enough from me.

65 posted on 09/16/2013 8:26:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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