Posted on 09/03/2013 12:14:07 PM PDT by Maelstorm
I’m torn on this. If conservatives lose, it will be demoralizing. If they win, they’ll sit on their laurels and lose going forward. It’s a given.
What does it look like there “on the ground”?
I’d assume all the momentum is with our side vs the usual GOTV efforts by the progressives, SEIU busloads, etc.
The ballot box has been corrupted by the left. Don’t look for good news.
Well that is the challenge. It doesn’t always happen that way. Wisconsin turned out good for us overall. We still didn’t win the Presidential race there but of course the re-call race and the state supreme court races were ran far better than Romney ran anything anywhere.
Is a liberaltarian running in this race too, or is it just R +D?
Here’s hoping that Coloradans kick Mikey’s butt so hard that he flies all the way back to the eastern seaboard, sans airplane.
What is at stake is something more than these seats, something more than gun control itself. It is the Left’s control of the narrative. This has been framed as “The Gun Lobby vs The People” since day one. A down vote gives that the lie.
I’m not sure but it looks like the races are too close to call. I saw one statewide poll showing the recall opposed by slight majorities statewide but the local poll which matters show at least one in trouble 34%-29%
There are several advantages in favor of the successful recall. That people actually must show up in person to vote gives an edge to us. My sense of the race now is that think at least one if not both will be recalled.
Thanks! Do you know how big a margin these Dems won by when they got elected previously? Are the districts heavily “blue”?
As I understand it, this is a straight up or down vote on whether these two traitors should be recalled, (IE, fired.), involving only the voters in their home districts.
"Peasants with pitchforks" is a really dangerous metaphor.
Just ask Patrick J. Buchanan.
OK. In some states the recall and the replacement vote are taken at the same time.
Let’s paint the rosy scenario as the outcome of these two recall elections. If both are recalled:
This will be the removal of a sitting State Senator president because of one focused issue (gun control). To my knowledge, that has NEVER happened anywhere in the US.
Then the Dems will go into the 2014 elections with only a one vote majority in the state senate.
Gov Hickenlooper (D) is already running a weak 45% approval rating because of his gun votes along with other votes.
It is very possible almost LIKELY, that the Dems will lose the Senate in 2014. Very possible that they will lose the Gov and it is even possible that the could lose the House.
If that happens, you will have ONE ISSUE that will have caused the Dems to lose both houses and the governorship in one election cycle. That issue being gun control. And the State of Colorado was seen as being the easiest pickup for gun control advocates and the Dems.
Not only will the local Dems be in shock and treat gun control like the third rail in politics. The National Dems will be shocked as well. The candidates WILL take notice and they will know that there is a price for their votes.
All eyes are on Colorado. Will it become the nanny state like Kalifornia or will it remain a free state like Texas?
So you're one of those "the glass is always empty" kind of guys.
That way if you're wrong nobody remembers and you don't remind them, and if you're right you get to say "I told you so."
Meanwhile, everybody around you has a mysterious urge to commit suicide whenever you drop in.
No matter how the recalls turn out it won’t be the end of it. CO gun owners aren’t going to stop until these laws are overturned.
I’m a Colorado resident north of Denver, but I have property down near these two areas. Lots of money moving in. Lots of flyers, radio spots, etc. My feel is that it is a lot but it is too late. Most people made up their minds when the law was signed into place.
The hot under the collar, crawl through broken glass voter is the gun owner and there are a WHOLE lot of them down south. Motivation and mass are on the side of the recall. I see no “burning need” on the side that wants to keep these two in office.
Morse - he is gone defiantly (I’d say 90% that he is out). As for the other one. Possibly, (50 to 60 percent that she is out) Depends on the turn out.
Usually they're spending money trying to convince voters of what they'll do in the future (and usually lying).
They can spend all they want now, but it won't erase what they've done in the past.
No, I'm a realize-that-the-former-party-of-Reagan-is-no-more kind of guy. Of course, I hope that the recalls succeed, but that usually results in the winning "Republican" not capitalizing on it at best, or actually giving concessions to the Left at worst.
I'm a realist. We conservatives are a man without a country/party.
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