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To: Nero Germanicus

Why did the lawyers for the Mississippi Dems need to ellicit legal mumbo-jumbo from Alvin Onaka to get his “verification”? Why didn’t they just ask Onaka to send a new certified copy of the COLB for the court to review? They seem to be taking great pains not to follow normal chain-of-custody procedures and are locked into this one image that was posted online in April 2011. Why? Why couldn’t the President’s lawyers simply request Onaka to personally scan the vault copy on different security paper (like the official paper used by HDOH)? Why couldn’t Obama authorize the National Archives to take possession of the vault copy and bring it to the Library of Congress for public display? He seems to have no issues using executive power to do all kinds of lawless and anti-Constitutional actions. He’s not running for office anymore, so he can’t be obfuscating solely for political advantage can he? Is he that cynical and callous? Doesn’t he owe Terry Lakin (and other political prisoners) the truth?


36 posted on 08/08/2013 4:48:22 AM PDT by Tillie (God Bless Pastor Manning, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Cmdr. Kerchner and all the other brave patriots!)
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To: Tillie

The Mississippi lawsuit was originally filed in April, 2012 in order to try to keep Obama off the Misssissippi ballot.

The Hawaii Revised Statute on Letters of Verification:
§338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
(c) Verification may be made in written, electronic, or other form approved by the director of health.
(d) The fee for a verification in lieu of a certified copy shall be a maximum of one half of the fee established in section 338-14.5 for the first certified copy of a certificate issued.
(e) Fees received for verifications in lieu of certified copies shall be remitted, and one half of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the vital statistics improvement special fund in section 338-14.6 and the remainder of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the state general fund. [L 2001, c 246, §1; am L 2010, c 55, §1]

The idea to submit such a letter to Judge Wingate came from the actions of Ken Bennett, the Secretary of State of Arizona who was the first to request such a letter concerning Obama’s birth certificate. Bennett used his Onaka letter to justify placing Obama’s name on the Arizona ballot.
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf

Secretary of State Bennett was followed by Kris Kobach, Secretary of State of Kansas who also requested a Letter of Verification from Dr. Onaka and Kobach also used his letter to approve Obama for the Kansas ballot.
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/106576604

What can be viewed in the link to the Mississippi Dems’ Motion exhibit is just one additional generation of photocopying from the original process that you suggested. You can read about that process here:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

If Judge Wingate wants or needs a first generation copy or if he personally wishes to view the original, vault edition, he can issue a court order for it which is allowable under the provisions of Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18(b) (point 9) a confidential birth vital record can be released to: “A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”


43 posted on 08/08/2013 10:30:39 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Tillie

Eggsactly. Very good first post. Happy Birthday!


49 posted on 08/08/2013 12:30:02 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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