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Most people have not thought very much about background checks.
1 posted on 08/06/2013 2:41:31 PM PDT by marktwain
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I think they’re just as pointless as restrictions on what free men can own guns.


2 posted on 08/06/2013 2:45:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Guns are 14th century technology.

Anyone with moderate intelligence and 14th century intelligence can make a gun.

So long as guns are not registered, guns can be bought or sold privately.


3 posted on 08/06/2013 2:50:22 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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using leftist logic, a background check is racist


4 posted on 08/06/2013 2:51:03 PM PDT by 4rcane
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This is illegal to do for someone who is forbidden from possessing guns.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Seems simple enough for me.

6 posted on 08/06/2013 2:53:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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Apparently all you have to do to get free guns without background checks is have a drug cartel in Mexico, or try to overthrow a secular middle-eastern government.

/johnny

8 posted on 08/06/2013 2:56:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Make your own.

Not too long ago, I remember how the parts kit for a Sten Gun was being sold. There used to be ads in Shotgun News. The kit contained everything but the receiver tube had been torched, rendering it ineffective. Then some entrepreneurial type started selling metal tubes with a stencil glued to it that showed where the appropriate holes went. Anybody that wanted a cheap submachine gun could put one together for less than $200.

(If you didn't mind a little visit from the BATFE)

9 posted on 08/06/2013 3:00:06 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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When offered a background check bill without a path to gun registration, those who claimed to want universal background checks immediately rejected it.

That version is slightly better than what exists today, but it doesn't make improper retention of information by government physically impossible. There is a way to do so and insure truly anonymous background checks (and I actually wouldn't object to universal background checks if done that way) but if they wouldn't even go for that one, they obviously wouldn't go for a real one. Since, when you offer them what they claim they want (UBC) without the thing they say they don't (back door registration) and they reject it, you know they're lying. Course, they're politicians, so that's just to be assumed.

11 posted on 08/06/2013 3:05:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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I’m pretty sure No. 1 is a flat out lie. Most criminals buy stolen guns from either the criminal who stole it or another criminal who bought it from the criminal who stole it. Oh, and there’s no background check.


12 posted on 08/06/2013 3:05:55 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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Because of the many ways that background checks can be evaded, background checks are not a viable method of reducing crime.

Anyone who's at all seriously concerned about crime ignores guns and concentrates on the root cause of crime: criminals.

How hard was that to figure out?

15 posted on 08/06/2013 3:11:19 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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Evidently this guy doesn`t know anything about America.

Up here we all got guns and sometimes you can up a nice gun at

10. a LAWN SALE

My relative just picked a a Japanese bolt-action 6.*mm for a buck at a

10.LAWN SALE here.

My nephew picked up a 12 ga for 5 bucks here at a

10.LAWN SALE

25 posted on 08/06/2013 3:43:24 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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This thread should probably be pulled.
NOTHING will get you in trouble faster with ATF than talking about building NFA devices.


27 posted on 08/06/2013 3:53:59 PM PDT by Zathras
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"3. Make your own...4. Print your own."

Yet another author pretending to support the Second Amendment while trying to help outlaw the last legal refuge for Second Amendment rights. He's a traitor against our civil rights, as are the others who exaggerate against home gunsmith work. No doubt, many are fed up with that kind of buddy-biting propaganda but, until now, afraid of posting their disgust.


28 posted on 08/06/2013 3:58:43 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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The exaggerations about straw purchases are also anti-Second-Amendment propaganda.


29 posted on 08/06/2013 4:02:52 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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"Homemade guns may not win target competitions, or be very good as hunting arms, but they usually work just fine for crimes."

That is one wrongful generalization from the other class (the bipartisan class pushing for more anti-Second-Amendment legislation). There are match competitors who have made receivers and other parts in their own shops, and it's quite legal (with no intent to sell the firearms/parts, etc.).


30 posted on 08/06/2013 4:11:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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I would rewrite the article, because it places too much emphasis on how criminals obtain guns. Instead it should emphasize how honest citizens can obtain a gun “beneath the radar” of the rather intensive and tricky ways used by the government and others to figure out who owns guns and of what kinds.

For example, if you make a private gun purchase and pay in cash, the sale may be unknown, unless the seller shoots his mouth off. Which he likely won’t do if he doesn’t know much of anything about you.

Next, buying ammunition is just as tricky, because if you buy 9mm, for example, they have reason to believe that you own a 9mm weapon. And certain of it if you use a credit card, or the dealer has security cameras just for people who buy ammo. This also applies for gun paraphernalia.

So it is far more important to use a straw buyer for ammo.


31 posted on 08/06/2013 4:19:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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Google in AK 47 parts kit. There are plenty of places you can buy a complete AK47 parts kit with no questions asked. These are complete kits all you need to do it put it together which is not all that difficult. Usually run around $500.00 give or take a few dollars.


36 posted on 08/06/2013 4:49:54 PM PDT by True Grit
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