Posted on 07/28/2013 6:36:44 AM PDT by LD Jackson
Does anyone think that, if the show was on the other foot, Democrats would hesitate to shut down the government and blame it on a GOP president?
Gutless, gutless, gutless. Coburn is a squish. He CLAIMS he wants smaller government, but won't take any tough ACTION to achieve it.
Should we just shut up and accept this and hope it'll implode on its own?
That's the cowardly way out and that's the current GOP regime's talking points.
I am not signing up for any government-run healthcare, and I'm not paying any fines.
I’m not going to get into an argument on Senator Coburn. He talks a good game but really doesn’t fight very hard. Not a single department or agency has spent less this year than last year. And we’ve been running the government on continuing resolutions since 2009, and the minute somebody actually threatens to stop the usual business from happening, the establishment of both parties whips into action to prevent it. And Coburn is obviously on their side. He’s said he’ll only serve two terms. I hope he sticks to that and this’ll be his last term, because the quiet conversations on the floor and the backroom cloakroom arguments have clearly gotten to him.
They’e so afraid of shutting down the government since what happened in 1995. The House has enormous leverage, but nobody ever wants to use it. Fund every bill but HHS or whatever bill Obamacare is in. Then let the Senate sit on them and ride out the pressure. Boehner caved in 2011 and we are now 17 trillion in debt instead of 14 trillion. Brilliant! Great job! How about we try something different?? Oh, no, Senator Coburn’s got his new glasses and said that would be dishonest, so let’s all just roll over then.
I don't care what Coburn has done in the past.
This is the here and now, and it's time for him and the GOP to take a stand.
The House should not pass any appropriations bill that includes Obamacare funding, and Senate Republicans should vote no if it does.
If it does passes without the GOP's help, then the GOP should simply tell people not to comply with the law.
We'll lose the House because enough disgusted conservatives will stay home thanks to Boehner and his boys caving again.
And look at this quote “The president is never going to sign a bill defunding Obamacare. Do you think he’s going to cave?”
Coburn’s an idiot. The House does not have to write a bill saying they’re defunding something, they just don’t have to fund it. Don’t include it in whatever bill they send, or just don’t fund the entire HHS department. Just don’t send that appropriations bill to the senate. Just don’t do it. There doesn’t need to be action. There needs to be inaction. The republicans are going to get blamed and excoriated one way or the other. How about actually getting something out of it instead of just caving. Is there nobody in a postion of power in Washington who can take the pressure??
Have these dishonorable whores and traitors have no shame?
“Lowell, Let Obamacare take root, and then you’ll have the Unions, and all your neighbors helping to pull it out by the roots. Some have to experience it, before everyone sees how awful it is.”
It is designed to fail. When it fails and the people are demanding it end the grand compromise solution will be the single payer government system Obama wanted all along. Those in the business community still contributing to the Republican Party also want a single payer, government run, system so they can eliminate the expense of employer funded health care premiums just as they ditched employer funded pensions twenty years ago. We will hear Karl Rove and the establishment leaders on Fox every night telling us how wonderful single payer will be. It will be just like Medicare..
Senators like Coburn know the real game and the real game is to have a government run single payer system in the US just like Canada and Great Britain. It means more patronage jobs to hand out. It means their business friends will have lower employee benefit costs, it means more lobbying money flowing on Capitol Hill.
The RINO Republicans complaining about Obamacare are as sincere as Obama is when he talks about helping the middle class. They are as despicable as any Democrat. Lying, cheating, immoral scoundrels.
Sorry but I have not ever viewed Tom Coburn as the standard bearer for conservatism in the GOP. Sometimes doing the right thing is hard and thats when the real meal deal guys stand out. We know who they are.
No, Tom, the GOP is dishonest, and I have had enough of you and everyone like you.
What?
If you shutdown the government by defunding the government, how is that not stopping the funding of Obamacare?
Obama canceled part of Obamacare using questionable legality and these Republicans like Coburn never really protested. But let some Republicans talk about legally canceling Obamacare, following Obama’s own lead, and these same Republicans squeal like pigs. Instead of standing up to Obama, they peep at him from a distance.
Obama will veto any bill that he knows defunds ObamaCare, and the corrupt media will blame republicans. When that happens, decent people will lose. The answer? Stealth repeal. Stick the repeal in a monstrous “must pass” bill as it comes out of conference committee. Don’t make it incredibly obvious, and don’t draw attention to it, just do it quietly, dishonestly, just like a democrat would. Then, once it’s signed, point out that that one line in an obscure list of trivia is a repeal of ACA.
Defunding lets the WH that we aren’t giving up on getting rid of this TAX.
Crappy GOP strategy.
I think Colburn is right-every time there’s been a gubmint “shut down”, dems win.
We have 11 senators...( 5 asked for their name to be removed from Lee’s letter) So how’s that going to work?
Let the Obamacare trainwreck play itself out and the rats wear it around their neck. By 2016 people will see what a failure it is.
Totally agree ...
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