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To: circlecity
-"HuH? Virtually every point in that letter SUPPORTS Sen. Cruz’s position because an unbord child is undoubtably a person. The fact they can feel pain just proves that."

You're missing the point. The point is....that this bill, by the very nature of it specifying WHEN (how old the fetus is) that you CANNOT have an abortion, it also implies WHEN you CAN have an abortion. I understand the purpose of the bill is to 'restrict' abortions, but by 'legislating' the WHEN ... you are affirming and legalizing the process prior to the WHEN.

8 posted on 07/11/2013 6:43:02 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA

Look around you and see the decay of our society. Do you wonder how we got here? It wasn’t done through sweeping changes overnight, it was done incrementally. That is the only way we are ever going to fix it. I don’t see how anyone could fail to support a step in the right direction simply because they don’t think the step is long enough.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 6:52:26 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: LibFreeUSA
The point is....that this bill, by the very nature of it specifying WHEN (how old the fetus is) that you CANNOT have an abortion, it also implies WHEN you CAN have an abortion. I understand the purpose of the bill is to 'restrict' abortions, but by 'legislating' the WHEN ... you are affirming and legalizing the process prior to the WHEN.

It's already legal. This bill restricts that current permissiveness, and is therefore a step in the right direction.

20 posted on 07/11/2013 7:05:01 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: LibFreeUSA
"You're missing the point. The point is....that this bill, by the very nature of it specifying WHEN (how old the fetus is) that you CANNOT have an abortion, it also implies WHEN you CAN have an abortion. I understand the purpose of the bill is to 'restrict' abortions, but by 'legislating' the WHEN ... you are affirming and legalizing the process prior to the WHEN."

So? every gain is a plus. If there is one thing we should of learned from the left is that sometimes you have to obtain your objectives incrementally. The attitude that it's got to be 100% of what we want or nothing often gets you nowhere, as it has with abortion the last 30 lyears. Every gain that gets you closer to the goalposts is a good thing.

21 posted on 07/11/2013 7:05:41 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: LibFreeUSA
Wrong
When you are in combat, and you see several enemy troops firing on your fellow Marines or Soldiers, it is not wrong to begin shooting those who are easiest to hit, first.

Choices have to be made.

When fighting a war, does the general attack the train tracks taking prisoners to the ovens, or the factory making bullets for the enemy? The same plane might not be able to do both at the same time.

Choices have to be made.

Purists are idiots when it comes to strategy.

We have a chance to SAVE some lives. We have absolutely NO CHANCE at making all abortions illegal at this time.

Smart prolifers will call your position absurd.

35 posted on 07/11/2013 7:23:03 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: LibFreeUSA

You posted, in part: The point is....that this bill, by the very nature of it specifying WHEN (how old the fetus is) that you CANNOT have an abortion, it also implies WHEN you CAN have an abortion.
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I don’t agree with your logic. It would be like saying, a law against armed robbery implies that it’s ok to rob someone without a weapon.

Does the law do all that we might hope it would do? No, but we ought not make the perfect the enemy of the good.


63 posted on 07/11/2013 7:55:26 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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