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To: Nero Germanicus; Ray76
BTT on the court's ruling.

After the ruling of the California Supreme Court, which is quite well reasoned and substantial, I fear we can forget about "Constitutional Eligibility" as a prime mover in getting this guy out of office.

Judge Carter, who does not strike me as an enemy, said that the courts have a role in determining Constitutional Eligibility BEFORE an election. AFTER the election, he tells us, an electorally certified and sworn-in sitting POTUS, eligible or not, falls under the jurisdiction of Congress, and Congress alone. OTOH, as Ray points out, document forgery, fraud, etc, are criminal acts. A person committing these acts is liable for prosecution; holding Office is no shield, these are not Official acts which would be shielded.

Should the evidence ever make it to Congress and he is impeached by the House for the 'High Crime and Misdemeanor' of presenting forged documents, then that for which we have devoutly wished will be accomplished. Removal and disgrace.

That still leaves us with the unanswered question of Constitutional Eligibility in the case of others. In the meantime FRolks, we gotta win an election in 2014. Where's the Program? The Plan? The Leader?

58 posted on 07/09/2013 5:24:36 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica.")
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To: Kenny Bunk

A person who is not the President can not be Impeached. “No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President”, if a person is ineligible they are not President.


59 posted on 07/09/2013 5:53:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The “Obama is ineligible” movement took Judge Carter’s ruling to heart. In 2012 there were 50 eligibility challenges to Obama being on the ballot heard in 22 states plus the District of Columbia.
Two of those ballot eligibility challenges are still pending, in Alabama before the state Supreme Court and in the U.S. District Court for the southern District of Mississippi.
Anyone talking impeachment and removal between now and January, 2015 needs to tell us which 22 Democrats in the current Senate (plus any RINO Republicans) would vote guilty in an impeachment trial.
I think the best strategy is to pursue a criminal indictment that would force resignation. Nixon resigned after being named as an “unindicted co-conspirator.”
That’s what Judge Carter (a Marine Lieutenant Vietnam combat vet who won the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart) meant when he referred to “the succession process of the Twenty-fifth Amendment.”


61 posted on 07/09/2013 6:04:32 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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