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Team Arpaio: We Have Two 1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificates That List Negro Not African
Mike Zullo ^ | 6-20-2013

Posted on 06/20/2013 2:58:17 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

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To: little jeremiah

Toot!Toot! And the man in Kenya who said that the kenyan married a woman named Anna Toot in the US and worked for an oil company might just have had a very good memory, because the record in the UK archives shows a marriage for the name Obama in 1954, and if the kenyan student was born in 1936, he would have been 18 when he married, and when Kezia said their son was six years old when she saw him off at the airport, that makes it about right for mid 1959, she was probably expecting when she married...which brings us back to the question we asked at the very outset; was the kenyan one of the Africa-America Institute students who entered the US on one of the scholarships offered from the early fifties with money from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, using money from Standard Oil, that brought some 30,000 foreign students to the US?
Long long before any airlift, that he wasn’t part of, was ever heard of...
Maybe he was working for an oil company and only returned to Kenya to apply for another scholarship, and left his Anna Toot behind to wait for him.
How did he come to boast about having a degree in business administration on his arrival in Hawaii? Why did he say at first interview that he hadn’t been back to Kenya for seven years? He left the trade-school at Maseno proficient in tailoring and carpentry...and english, which he spoke with an upper-class English accent, mimicking his Anglican teachers.
He spent a lot of time with Elizabeth Mooney, going dancing and on long country drives, according to Sally Jacobs, and what-ever gave her the idea to send a family man with two children to Hawaii? Maybe he already had a family in the US. Maybe Anna was a Toot! Patiently waiting...
They tried to make it seem that Malik was only a toddler when the kenyan left, but we are missing five years in this story, this saga that is entirely without chronology...

And I’m in the doghouse for asking questions? Good heavens, I haven’t even started...and I’m only half-joking...

Then there’s this insightful comment from a freeper from waaaay back in October 2009:

“Something not quite right about the dates. Malik was six in 1959 when Obama senior left for Hawaii. Now, 2008, he is 50 and Obama II is 47? Someone who tracks these issues should double check, but barring some mystical event, Obama II should therefore be around 42. How did Barack II gain 5 years on Malik?”


381 posted on 06/25/2013 10:01:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
You apparently are convinced the kenyan student was the father of zero.

If that is the case, then I need to be more careful and more precise. Thank you for the observation.

All I know for sure, is that I don't believe any of the official story regarding the Choomer former known as Barry and currently acting as POTUS.

I don't think he looks like Obama Sr. Don't see the resemblance. If going by who he looks like, then I go with Malcom X. But to be honest, I don't know who his parents are and neither does anyone else!

As to where he was born? I don't have a clue about that either!! At least, not without having more info, and as near as I can tell, no one else is doing much better job with it than SWAGs, same as me.

AS far as the official story goes, it's just fraud and lies as far as I can see, all aided and abetted by both parties and powers that be. What to make of that?

I honestly do not believe anyone prior to the end of Bush the elder's presidency would have believed such a thing could be possible, let alone accurately said about the person in the White House or the parties in government.

It's simply amazing to me how far we are from only a few decades ago. Someone has kicked our butt pretty good with the most amazing con job in history and even has useful idiots arguing for the official lie!

And, so far, there's not much we've been able to do about it.

Someone paid attention in psych class and to the parts about the Constitution in civics class.

382 posted on 06/25/2013 10:36:00 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: GBA

So we start with a clean slate.

383 posted on 06/25/2013 10:40:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
Clearly, that is what we, the curious and the skeptical, must do...but such an amazing thing to have to do this now, about the POTUS, or that no one could be bothered back in 2008 about such trivia, no matter what questions we asked them.

Officially, we've been at least a light year beyond "interesting times" since 2008. And yet, here we are, still asking the same questions and more or less being told we have no standing!?!

Yep, well past the coup stage, too, I'd say. I wonder who the new owners are.

384 posted on 06/25/2013 10:51:42 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: GBA
...I wonder who the new owners are.

I'm an Australian, my view is from down under and not the least politically correct. I believe your new owners are the enemy within that was always there. They believe their time has come. You'll find a few of them and some background throughout the research posted on:

OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL

385 posted on 06/25/2013 11:04:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the info! I am still an optimist.

We may indeed be the most dumbed down, lowest information bunch to ever inherit the American mantle, but I just know this sleeping giant will wake up again.

Team obama and the PTBs may have put our somnambulist population into a coma, but I see some brain activity on the scanners and signs of life returning.

One day this comatose country will suddenly sit up, eyes wide open and ask for a cup of coffee. When the caffeine kicks in and our vision clears a bit, we are going to be pissed off at what we finally see and at who did this to US!

386 posted on 06/26/2013 7:57:43 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: GBA

There was still a time in 1965 when that might have been possible, as the intoduction to this article shows:

Races: Death and Transfiguration
Friday, Mar. 05, 1965

Malcolm X had been a pimp, a cocaine addict and a thief. He was an unashamed demagogue. His gospel was hatred: “Your little babies will get polio!” he cried to the “white devils.” His creed was violence: “If ballots won’t work, bullets will.”

Yet even before his bullet-ripped body went to its grave, Malcolm X was being sanctified. Negro leaders called him “brilliant,” said he had recently “moderated” his views, blamed his assassination on “the white power structure” or, in the case of Martin Luther King, on a “society sick enough to express dissent with murder.” Malcolm’s death, they agreed,...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,839291,00.html

That article now requires subscription. From the moment you allowed this man to be described as a civil-rights advocate instead of what he really was, the dye was cast...


387 posted on 06/26/2013 4:07:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Ladysforest
I would have to dig around to be certain...

I hope it's not with a shovel. ;-)
388 posted on 06/26/2013 7:26:36 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Depends on my mood.


389 posted on 06/26/2013 8:52:09 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fred Nerks

Excellent quote.

Like the Zen master story - “first you have to empty your cup”.

I’ve been either making jam or dealing with the Supreme Court monstrosities today.


390 posted on 06/26/2013 11:02:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

Nothing in the official myth fits. It’s full of funhouse mirrors, stairs that go nowhere, doors that open only onto other doors, floors that tilt, and echoing insane laughter....


391 posted on 06/26/2013 11:09:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Ladysforest
Mae was a pretty common middle name.

Yup. My sister born in 1958 and mom in 1928 have the middle name Mae. Many others in the family as well.

392 posted on 06/27/2013 12:14:11 AM PDT by Myrddin
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393 posted on 06/27/2013 12:29:39 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Mae has a Celtic/Gaelic derivation. It means "bitter"

See Female Scottish Names

394 posted on 06/27/2013 12:38:19 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin; Brown Deer
The name appears to originate in the Philippines. The christian names on the birth index for OBADO are Douglas Liberato, and Dolleen Bergonia.

As an example, the following obituary

PATERNO O. OBADO (1920-2003) With Peace and Joy, Paterno was joined with our Lord on April 22, 2003. Paterno O. Obado was born on February 12, 1920, in Sarrat, Llocos Norte, Philippine Islands, the third child of the late Elias Obado and Felicissima Balicanpa Obado. From 1943-1946, he proudly served as a sergeant in the Philippine Commonwealth Army, including the recognized guerrillas in the service of the United States Army Forces in the Far East under the Commanding General Douglas MacArthur during World War II.

~snip

He is survived by his five children and their families: Franklin and Caridad Aquino of Oakland, Teotimo Constante Obado of Oakland, Apolinar and Kathy Obado of Fremont, Isagani Felipe and Rizalina Obado of Manila, Philippines and, Gerion and Nimfa Obado of Bawang, La Union, Philippines...

The above indicates the Spanish origin of the majority of the christian names in that particular family. (There's nothing to suggest any Celtic connection.)

OBADO OBITUARY

OBADO IMMIGRATION TO HAWAII - 1950-1959:

OBADO. Vincenta. Felix. Claudia. Honorata. Marcos. Hilario. Fidel. Magdalena. Sulpicio.

And not a single DUPLICATE MAE anywhere that I could find.

395 posted on 06/27/2013 4:58:43 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Brown Deer; little jeremiah
And you'll be delighted to know that on fogbow I found this thrilling entry, Post 13352. August 22, 2010:

It's not "a duplicate name". It's the name of somebody named "Duplicate".

You think I'm kidding, but no.

And Duplicate's last name isn't Obama, it's Obado.

396 posted on 06/27/2013 5:13:33 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: Myrddin

Cool graph. I was born in the 60’s - middle name Marie. About 1/3 of the women within a decade of myself seem to have the same middle name.


397 posted on 06/27/2013 8:15:19 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fred Nerks

In the 59-60 Honolulu Polk there are zero Obado. But those are self-supplied - unlike phone books. In the 60-61 Polk there is a Gloria Obada. No Obado in the 61-62. In the 62-63 there is a Douglas Obada.

I think I have some copies from 61 - 62 phone books, but have to hunt for those.


398 posted on 06/27/2013 8:29:22 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fred Nerks

And two entries in Marriage by Groom Index for Obado in the 1960-1965 book:

http://myveryownpointofview.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/ptdc00042.jpg


399 posted on 06/27/2013 9:06:52 AM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Fred Nerks

I have recorded and filed births/deaths/marriages and will say the original numbers are supposed to remain the same. No matter what information that is changed/amended on these certificates, THE ORIGINAL REGISTRATION NUMBER REMAINS THE SAME. Just like if a female gets married and requests her last name be changed on her Social Security card, her original number remains the same. Same as if a child is adopted, their birth certificate stays the same except for the parents’ names. The adopted child’s registration number stays the same - their birth date is the same - the delivery time and hospital is the same - the parents’ address remains the same even though the adopted parents never lived at that address. But then we’re talking about “anything goes” Hawaii and the evil current administration can do anything it wants.


400 posted on 06/27/2013 9:44:56 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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