“I cant see him not doing all he can to thwart this.”
If you cut through Orly’s inflated claims she is asking the judge to compel SSA to produce Bounel’s SS-5, which might not even exist and may in no way implicate Barry even if it does.
I don’t see how the judge can possibly deny Orly’s request to compel production of the SS-5 of a 123 year-old man.
If Barry has nothing to hide then production of Bounel’s SS-5 can’t hurt him and the judge knows that.
It will be interesting to see how the DOJ attempts to prevent release of Bounel’s SS-5 because it will implicate Barry if they continue to fight it. Barry can’t claim privacy rights and the court cannot grant him privacy rights over Bounel’s SS file!
If Obama and his administration crew are trapped by the court to produce the Bounel SS-5, they likely will resort to committing another fraudulent document.
If I understand the conflicting claims correctly (??), one claim is that Bounel and the association of the SSAN with his name is a total fabrication, as in a fabrication deliberately sown by the Obama-ites inside SSA with the intent to mislead the birthers, and they fraudulently rigged the SSA computers to return that information sometime in 2009. If that is the case, there might be an actual real person associated with the SSAN that no one yet knows exists. That person may or may not be Obama, may or may not be alive, may or may not have been born early enough that the newly discovered SSA freedom of information directive describes. If that is the case, all the SSA has to do is respond appropriately to the requests. If it actually is Obama, then privacy rules apply, and it can’t be confirmed by the SSA, in which case the thrust of the inquiry cannot proceed since nothing can be established in the public record to file in court against Obama in any related action. There might be a slim chance that there is something both fraudulent and obtainable. For that to occur, the original SSAN would have to have been fraudulently used by Obama, the original application would need to be old enough so that privacy laws would no longer apply, and the SSA must honestly report the original application to the court.
Beyond that, a SSAN beginning with 042 seems to be tied to Obama, which seems to point to some kind of fraud, although I do not see where it is a by itself definitive proof of fraud— that is, somehow Obama could have in theory flown to Connecticut in 1980 and registered himself with SSA there. As long as it could have theoretically happened, there is nothing illegal about it on its face. Did anyone track down if B-R required a SSAN to work in 1976? Again nothing wrong legally since B-R could in theory have waived it or made some sort of error, or Obama could have used a friend’s SSAN.