Obama's Perkins Coie is a client of Arpaio's expert, Reed Hayes, who says Obama's BC is forged

Expert Witness Directory ^ | June 4, 2013 | Seizethecarp

[Seizethecarp]

Ping to thread on Perkins Coie using Reed Hayes as a document expert and FogBlower heads exploding after finding that Hayes had a “partner” (now deceased) who was an ACLU lawyer...

[NOVACPA]

I am sure they were hoping for the trifecta:

Christian
Home-schooler
AR-15 owner

Too bad....

[mountainlion]

Masod said the papers were phony also.

[The Great RJ]

No evidence of Obama’s phony birth documents,regardless of how compelling, will not change a thing. The GOP leadership is too timid to do anything and the media and Democrats would defend Obama no matter what. An authentic Kenyan birth certificate and sworn affidavits by 100 people including Obama’s mother of his Kenyan birth would be pooh-poohed. Ditto a copy of his Indonesian passport and school records showing him as a foreign student.

[Neidermeyer]

Sheriff Joe is playing Chess..

[Phillyred]

Anyone with Adobe Illustrator knew this already.

[fwdude]

It’s raining scandals!

[Fantasywriter]

‘Obots have even debated at length whether personal attacks should be suspended due to this discovery and only Hayes’ work product be attacked. That’s generous of some of them but other Obots chimed in that just because Hayes’ partner was ACLU doesn’t mean that Hayes wasn’t some kind of Obama-hating right-wing “birther.”’

They’ve gone off the rails. They’re admiring the lovely chartreuse sky & marveling at the proliferation of rainbows & unicorns.

Now that they’ve had a taste of this idyllic alternate ‘world’, they’ll never revisit the real one.

The midterms are going to come as an awful shock to the Befogged community.

[Fantasywriter]

I don’t visit Fogland, but I wish someone who does cd answer one question. Namely, do they have an explanation for why, if Obama has a real LF BC on file, an electronic forgery had to be created in the first place?

[Seizethecarp]

BTW, I purchased some search time on the webpage Dauberttracker.com which records the results, good or bad, for Daubert challenges to expert witnesses and no Daubert challenges to Reed Hayes are recorded. This may be due to his impeccable credentials and well drafted opinions which would discourage any such challenges from opposing counsel.

http://www.dauberttracker.com/

Daubert Standard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daubert_standard

[MagnoliaB]

Anyone who has ever used a manual typewriter knew this already.

[American Constitutionalist]

It's called the pretzel logic.

[Red Steel]

Bump.

[Nero Germanicus]

That’s a great question.
As best I can tell, their position is that the only birth certificate that matters is the one stored in a safe in the Registrar’s office in the Hawaii Department of Health, the original version. That one has been verified as authentic by Hawaii officials on eight occasions since 2008.
They further believe that what some folks call “forgery” is nothing more than misunderstanding the optimization process used when creating a PDF from a scanned document. In layman’s terms, digital manipulation doesn’t alter the content of a scanned document, it just makes the document easier to read on a computer screen through compression and optimization of graphics.
It’s like saying that a scanned picture of the moon that has been digitally manipulated and enhanced through the use of Adobe Illustrator software algorithms does not change the moon itself or render the moon as fraudulent.

[Fantasywriter]

Is this their position or yours?

[BruceDeitrickPrice]

YouTube guy has more sense than New York Times, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhhLc3dDjL4

[LucyT]

Ping to thread on Perkins Coie using Reed Hayes as a document expert and FogBlower heads exploding after finding that Hayes had a “partner” (now deceased) who was an ACLU lawyer...

Thanks, Carp.

[Fantasywriter]

Wouldn’t it be amazing if your view of Obama’s forged LF BC just happened to be identical to that of the Foggers?