Posted on 06/04/2013 10:11:38 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
...Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., went on a bit of a rant earlier against the victims of IRS targeting who are testifying in today’s hearing. He was not the only Democrat to defend the IRS’s behavior....
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Congress shall make no law respecting . . . prohibiting . . . abridging . . . shall not be infringed . . . The right of the people . . . shall not be violated . . . No person shall . . . the accused shall . . . Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted . . . The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people . . . The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
It's quite clear that the "scrutiny" we may be subjected to is strictly limited and that the thugs in the White House and the IRS exceeded their constitutional powers.
Jim McDermott yat ANOTHER A$$HOLE from Chicago:
Early life, education, and early career[edit]McDermott was born in Chicago, Illinois. He was the first member of his family to attend college; he graduated from Wheaton College, Illinois, and then went to medical school, getting an M.D. from the University of Illinois College of Medicine in Chicago in 1963. After completing an internship from 1963 to 1964 at Buffalo General Hospital in Buffalo, New York, a two-year psychiatry residency at the University of Illinois Research and Educational Hospital (now called University of Illinois Research Hospital), and fellowship training in child psychiatry from 1966 to 1968 at the University of Washington Medical Center in Seattle, he served in the United States Navy Medical Corps as a psychiatrist in California during the Vietnam War.[1][2]
AND a NUT Dr to boot!
I absolutely agree. The problem is that we have gone so far down the road to socialism that getting back to the Founders’ vision will take much doing (if not another revolution).
Walter Williams’ recent column hit the nail when he said that we DESERVE an aggressive, abusive tax collection agency as it is necessary to force producers to hand over their wealth so that the politicians can hand it to favored groups for their votes at election time.
That said, this discussion of taxes should take a back seat to returning us to the precious metal requirement for “money” imposed by Art.1, Sect.10. But that is a more complex conversation far too many folks can’t get their heads around.
Joel Pollak from Brietbart said it best.
IRS Scandal: Democrats Blitz and Get Burned
“The coup de grâce came during questioning by Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL), who pointed out the elephant in the room: President Barack Obama’s own Organizing for Action, a 501(c)4 group specifically devoted to the defense of the president’s policies. Rep. McDermott interrupted to state that Organizing for Action should also disclose its donors as well. Yet clearly that is not on the agenda for Democrats or the White House.”
This will eventually get to the White House.
If anyone ever really, really needed a knuckle sandwich it’s....
They were hoping their accusations of racists, etc., would stick, giving them cover for what they’ve been up to. They made it clear they were going after their enemies. Now we know that included placing the boot of the IRS on the neck of the Tea Party.
If I said what I really think about liberal kleptocrats like McD I would be quite properly banned from this site.
501 c(4) groups, unlike 501 c(3)s, are not subsidized by the taxpayer. The “benefit” they receive is that they can incorporate and their members’ money doesn’t get taxed a second time when it’s donated and pooled for advocacy purposes
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There should be an IQ test for idiots like him especially since he is making the laws that he is so ignorant about.
Excellent points.
For those who argue that it would require an IRS bigger and badder than is now the case (as difficult as that is to imagine!) to collect the FAIR TAX, their argument is BOGUS! 45 states already collect state sales taxes: It would be a relatively simple matter to have the states collect the FAIR TAX as well. The added burden on businesses to collect the FAIR TAX? An extra line on the current state form or as is more likely the case in today’s computerized world a minor software change! Businesses and the states would be compensated for their collection/reporting activities. States not having their own sales tax divisions would have the option of contracting with a neighboring sales tax state to handle collection/reporting functions or the feds would handle the process—admittedly, given recent history with the IRS, the least desirable alternative.
Under the FAIR TAX, the present IRS would be disbanded and a new, much smaller FAIR TAX collection office would be established directly under the Secretary of Treasury. Since this new agency will NOT have to deal with 100 million individual taxpayers and 20 million businesses but only with the 45 to 50 state collection agencies, the entire federal end could be run by a few hundred folks. It might take perhaps 200 field agents (4 per state) to work with the state revenue offices to be certain they aren’t cooking the books or playing games with the fed’s piece of the action + additional for those non sales tax states foolhardy enough to allow the feds to have their way with their businessmen. Perhaps another 100 more in the main office to run the computers and post deposits, make coffee, run out for the donuts, etc.
A number of years ago, California Treasurer Matt Fong determined that something like 10% to 15% of the retail outlets there collected 80% of ALL the sales taxes remitted to California. These were the Big Box stores like Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc. The remaining 20% came from the small outlets, most of whom would soon be computerized if and when a national sales tax would kick in.
While I understand and agree with the arguments challenging the legality of the 16th Amendment and income taxation, we have sadly gone so far down the road to our current socialist system, there’s no way in our lifetimes we’re going to go back to a purely Constitutional system of state-by-state population apportionment. If that is to happen at all, we’re going to have to creep back toward the Founders’ vision of a tax system they sought to leave us and the progressive left has destroyed to build their Utopian vision of a command society run by – surprise, surprise — them.
Finally, let me deal with the very real concern that the FAIR TAX would quickly be manipulated by rent-seeking lobbyists and their political bedmates: That problem would not be unique to the FAIR TAX. It is why we have the incomprehensible and abusive “tax code” and IRS we suffer with now. That then begs the question of “Why have we allowed it.” I submit that it is a symptom of the disease now threatening ALL our liberties. We allowed it because far too many of us have grown lazy and disinterested in the working of the government and have failed to hold accountable those we put in elected office. The illogical conclusion of that is to do nothing and continue to suffer.
Let me close with a quotation from an earlier time:
“Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; if it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it.” — Judge Learned Hand, 1944
The Best idea I’ve heard all year.
This goes straight to the rotten top.
There’s no doubt this has been a coordinated effort by The Imperial Community Organizing Regime (to include its complicit IRS thugs/union thugs - and let’s not leave out the MSM and Valerie J). Let’s call it the dirty word that it deserves — Fascism.
I hope and pray they all go down hard - every last one of them, including obama. Obviously riots aren’t the worst thing that could happen to this country.
But other than a few bright spots, so far these “hearings” have been nothing but the usual dog and pony show — where they’ve basically all been smirking and taking the opportunity to remind us that we’re the subjects and they’re the untouchable elite.
These evil cretins have interfered with an election, we know that. And in all their accusations of suppression of the vote by “racist” conservatives - again, with the help of the MSM - where are the reverse accusations now that the real voter suppression and intimidation is laid out there for all to see? Crickets.
To top it off, those who should be guardians of our Constitution, and should know where to draw the line regarding party loyalty (fat chance!), are instead sticking with their worn out talking points while what’s left of the USA is circling the drain. Just disgusting.
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