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1 posted on 05/31/2013 7:16:08 PM PDT by forty_years
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To: forty_years

Nah.

I’m tired of the same crap coming up over and over and having to call these useless bastards and tell them not to stomp all over my rights.

If they do it, they do it.

I’m just going to respectfully disagree and go on about my business. I’m mean, what’s the worst that could happen?

Is Joe Leiberman going to be disappointed with me and tell me that I need to do better? Is he going to flash his upper teeth at me?

I’m tired of playing this game.


2 posted on 05/31/2013 7:19:00 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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America`s Sword is mightier than Obummer`s pen.


3 posted on 05/31/2013 7:26:23 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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I DON'T SEE HOW WE THE PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE OF STOPPING ANYTHING WITH THIS LIBERAL RAIL TRAIN ROARING TOWARD THE CLIFF.
4 posted on 05/31/2013 7:35:12 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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So, here it is Friday night and we need to stop this before Monday, June 03, 2012 when Obunga is going to sign? What can we do about it? I am sick of this administration and their attacks on our rights. I know you say we can act. We acted and still have ObamaCare.
5 posted on 05/31/2013 7:51:09 PM PDT by Bronzy
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So what? Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocols. The Senate refused to ratify it, and even voted 95-0 for a resolution opposing its key tenets.


6 posted on 05/31/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by montag813
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Won’t ever make it through the Senate.

I’m busy with other stuff.

Thatz one thing he can sign and I could care less.


7 posted on 05/31/2013 7:56:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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i know this regieme craps all over the Constutution so i guess suggesting that nothing can happen because ALL treaties have to be passed in the senate would be insulting to fellow freepers. maybe all of us should just ignore amy law we don’t like and use “well the president does it all the time” as an explanation.


8 posted on 05/31/2013 7:57:46 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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means nothing without
2/3rds of the Senate.


9 posted on 05/31/2013 8:06:39 PM PDT by RockyTx
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While all treaties require ratification be the senate...which is unlikely....
Oboingo may attempt an end run around that obvious impediment
via Executive Order. Such an order implementing the treaty would NOT
be constitutional but the executive branch controls all the guns....thus
they can pretty much do whatever they want with impunity. He evil
antics of Holder and the Just Us department is an obvious bellweather
if how this administration does as it wishes without regard to the rule of
law.


12 posted on 05/31/2013 8:14:28 PM PDT by nvscanman
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Cannot use a foreign occupier law (UN) to trump the constitution and the Bill of Rights.
It would be unenforceable and quite possibly treasonous for the act of actually signing it.
Now the question is, who would prosecute Obama for treason?
18 posted on 05/31/2013 9:57:41 PM PDT by MaxMax
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The Supreme Court has already clarified the limits of the federal government's constitutonal authority to negotiate treaties in the favor of patriots.

More specifically, first note that the writings of Thomas Jefferson indicate that concern that the federal government might use its power to negotiate treaties to rob our constitutional protections is nothing new. In fact, based on his experience as vice president and therefore president of the Senate, Jefferson had officially clarified the limits of federal government power to negotiate treaties.

"In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

"Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way." --Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812.

Next, reflecting on Jefferson's expert understanding of federal power to negotiate treaties, the Supreme Court has officially clarified the following. Essentially the feds cannot use treaties as a back door to force US citizens to comply with foreign laws based on powers which the states have never delegated to Congress via the Constitution.

"2. Insofar as Art. 2(11) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice provides for the military trial of civilian dependents accompanying the armed forces in foreign countries, it cannot be sustained as legislation which is "necessary and proper" to carry out obligations of the United States under international agreements made with those countries, since no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution (emphasis added)." --Reid v. Covert, 1956.

19 posted on 05/31/2013 9:59:58 PM PDT by Amendment10
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The U.S. news media will completely hide this treason by Obama from the American people. expect more doses of Angelina Jolie, OJ, sports, Hollywood bs, etc. .How many Americans even know about this UN arms treaty? I bet less than 5% of Americans do.

How can we win with the media misinforming people?

The media is also hiding the Amnesty bill they are trying to sneak through congress.

Several on this site berated me for pointing out the last Jolie distraction ( that Jolie planned at the time the IRS scandal breaking). several on this site that posted those Jolie articles HERE also berated me


21 posted on 05/31/2013 10:34:25 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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No President can bind us to any Treaty. Requires 67 vote Super Majority of Senate. Will never happen with 2014 election coming on like a freight train.

This is just another in the long line of fakeroo ‘sky is falling’ scare tactics nobama loves to crank up conservatives with.


33 posted on 06/01/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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