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Obama Has Won! Is Civil War Inevitable?
Clash Daily ^ | May 10, 2013 | Skip Coryell

Posted on 05/11/2013 7:17:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Some of you are already shaking your head and arguing with my headline. I can hear the conservative craniums rattling all across America’s fruited plains, her mountain’s majesty, and from sea to shining sea. Let me clarify my title. Let’s start with the first half: Obama Has Won! But you scream back angrily at me, “NO he hasn’t! He didn’t win! We’ll never admit defeat!” Good for you. I appreciate and respect your patriotism and tenacity.

Unfortunately, you’re wrong. There’s no denying that one. He was re-elected, and he’s achieved every goal he set out to win short of disarming the American people. Obama’s primary objective (his mission statement if you will) is “To fundamentally change America.” Many argue that he’s already done that. I would argue that America was already fundamentally changed years before he was voted into office.

Three things paved the way for the Obama Presidency:

1. God was banned from the public arena. The Founding Fathers warned us that only an informed and moral people could sustain a constitutional republic. As it turns out, our founding parents were right. Only a moral people can know the difference between right and wrong. Look at our present culture. Wrong is right and right is wrong. We’re 180 degrees out of phase. For heaven’s sake we can’t even agree that men shouldn’t marry other men and that we shouldn’t pull babies from their mother’s bellies and murder them. Without God we are pond scum, and scum has no intrinsic value, no self-esteem, and no reason for existence. (That might help explain the skyrocketing suicide rate in our country.)

2. We lost the public school system. Once God left the schools, the liberals took over the education of our young. Right under our noses they captured that generation as well as the next generation (produced by the prior litter via unholy out-of-wedlock sin.) They dumbed us down, churning out millions of low-information voters. And since God wasn’t there to hold us accountable, it was easy for liberal teachers to sell our children a menu of selfish immorality. Kids don’t know any better unless they’re taught at a young age that serving others is better than serving your own vain and selfish appetite. Humans are inherently evil, not inherently good. Without God we have no compass.

3. We lost the media. The media, that stalwart fourth estate, the unofficial branch of government that always kicks in when the politicians lose their way, is no longer with us. Instead, the media is owned by the liberals. I should go farther and say that the media is now simply a soul-less, masturbatory tool of Barack Obama. (Bill Clinton was the John the Baptist of the liberal movement, paving the way for one greater than he, one, whose sandals he is unworthy to bear. Bill Clinton desensitized the American public to an immoral presidency. “I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.” Of course you didn’t! It wasn’t sex; it was just a blow job in the oval orifice. It was none of our business anyways.) Now, the American people are so desensitized to immorality that it no longer matters what the president does. It’s no big deal. Sell machine guns to Mexican drug cartels and cause the death of Border Patrol agents? No problem. Withhold security from the Ambassador to Libya? No worries. He’s toast. And through it all, the media remains complicitly silent.

If politics is a game of Chess, then liberals are Bobby Fischer, and conservatives are The Three Stooges. In a cunning game of patience and forethought, conservatives just can’t compete.

Conservatives have always relied on informed voters with integrity and moral fiber, but they no longer have that advantage. It became clear to me that when Barack Obama won his second term: America was lost. We no longer have a society of voters capable of making prudent, wise decisions. Over half our electorate is now composed of narcissists who vote for their own selfish interests.

So where does that leave us? Is there any hope at all for America? Maybe, but I’m skeptical. For some time now I’ve wondered: Is there any hope for America this side of bloodshed? Was Thomas Jefferson correct when he said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

Prior to the first American Revolution, there was a period of about forty years where the people became unhappy with their King, where they gradually strained against the tightening bonds that sought to enslave them. I see it happening again. The ground is fertile for both slavery and revolution.

Alas, my nine hundred words are up. But let’s continue our discussion next week when I write about Adam Kokesh and his upcoming armed march on Washington DC. Will it be the next shot heard round the world? Will it spark the next American Civil War? Will it be the final nail in the coffin of freedom?

In the meantime, study the Founders. Pray to God.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: cw2; dnctreason; doomandgloom; noaccountability; nodocumentation; nohonor; nointegrity; nomoreamerica; obama; obamatreason; pessimism; rinotreason
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen!


41 posted on 05/11/2013 7:59:13 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up" Jeremiah 50:32)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We talked ourselves into abandoning free enterprise. One regulation to correct a perceived injustice here, another regulation to protect our health or make the job safer. Both parties participated but the underlying intent was the nationalization of industry and the elimination of small businesses by making compliance ungodly expensive. Let the buyer beware? No regulate competition so only outright thieves and charlatans prosper outside of the crony capitalist industry leaders.


42 posted on 05/11/2013 7:59:21 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark


43 posted on 05/11/2013 8:01:13 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: All
Not to be glib, but a civil (revolutionary?) war is inevitable. Heres the rub. The overloards, as at this point I am not calling them Government since they dont govern they rule, has the choosing of when they ignite it, barring an unforseen firestorm. The latter is unlikely though unless tv is shut down.

Furthermore, as much as I see thru obama and his henchemen, our congresscritters are equally as culpable. Do nothings.

44 posted on 05/11/2013 8:05:37 PM PDT by CygnusXI (Im back!)
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To: Leaning Right
For example, I'll bet you the huge majority of Hillary supporters voted for Obama in the general election. But many conservatives don't do that. If their candidate loses, they pout and stay home.

Probably because conservatives have both standards and Principles, both of which the left doesn't have.

Principles aren't merely suggestions, they're a code that you live by, double that if you are a Christian.

Now I am assuming you are referring to Mitt Romney and John McCain.

On this you are wrong as well.

Romney wasn't even a real Republican, and for conservative Christians, Romney's stated support for Abortion just before the election (after lying about being Pro-Life at CPAC during the primaries) and his implementation of Gay Marriage while Governor (and lying about it), his support for Gays in the Military, and his support for Gay Adoption, and his support for Gays in the Boy Scouts means many social conservatives couldn't vote for him.

For some of us, it was more important to please God before being a pragmatist.
45 posted on 05/11/2013 8:06:45 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well then...let’s just all fix an adult beverage, sit back and watch the end.


46 posted on 05/11/2013 8:06:47 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. Thermouclear civil and global war.

Let the socialists of all shades, and the muslims, have what they deserve - extinction.


47 posted on 05/11/2013 8:07:46 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump


48 posted on 05/11/2013 8:08:51 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: OneWingedShark
>"Romney was just as much selected as Obama was "

Just like McLAme.

Even if 0m0slem had lost the first one, things would still be just about where they are today.

Pubbies get tyranical laws passed because no body is skeered of them.


Bush's Fault!!!!! For ceding office to an islamic nationalist socialist foreigner!

49 posted on 05/11/2013 8:09:01 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up" Jeremiah 50:32)
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To: CygnusXI
Furthermore, as much as I see thru obama and his henchemen, our congresscritters are equally as culpable. Do nothings.

I've lost track of when I started saying it, but the reality has been for a very long time that there's two sets of laws in this country: One for the Political Ruling class, and another for the rest of us.

"Insider Trading" is illegal on Wall Street, yet our Congressmen rolled back a rule they place on themselves two years ago which stated they could not use legislation or the information they knew/know to make trades and profit from them.

That law was rolled back in the dead of night, with no one looking. You and I will go to jail if we're accused & convicted of insider trading - they on the other hand BENEFIT from it and laugh in our faces while they're at it.

Bastards all.

50 posted on 05/11/2013 8:10:40 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Ouderkirk; ClearCase_guy
Think about that for a while and honestly tell me that there will be a cavalry to come in and rescue those patriots willing to take a stand or will they be just another David Koresh style take down.

The cultural and political environment is in another universe in comparing today and David Koresh's day.

I think you would see an event like Koresh, against a conservative without any baggage be the spark that starts a conflagration they can't put out.

Try comparing the volume of posts on FreeRepublic and other conservative sites discussing the various scenarios with the volume of posts during Koresh's day.

World of difference.

And that's just one measure.

The stockpiling of guns, the stockpiling of ammunition is another.

The passage of nullification laws by states is another.

No comparison between now and then.
51 posted on 05/11/2013 8:11:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is 3 hours BUT I encourage all to view it. Take it in small chunks - it is gut wrenching. Alan West, 4-6 Generals, and parents of those lost.

Navy SEAL Extortion 17 EXPOSED - Obama Failures .

HE MUST BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE - WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL JAN 2017 - HE HAS DESTROYED THE MILITARY.
52 posted on 05/11/2013 8:11:44 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: JimSEA

Without the EPA, rivers were burning due to industrial pollution in the northeast. That stream that Rolling Rock brags about was a thoroughly polluted mess thanks to Rolling Rock, until the EPA stepped in and forced them to clean it up. The EPA has a place and can do some good, it’s just like any other tool.

I also can’t help but notice that we don’t have a significant green party presence in this country, I partly credit the EPA with that.

OSHA has set safety standards that companies refused to set themselves. On the balance, OSHA compliance results in fewer accidents on the worksite which save the company money, at worst it’s a wash. The other thing OSHA does is take the place of unions negotiating safe workplace conditions.

On the balance the two are useful, but like any facet of government they must be carefully restrained.


53 posted on 05/11/2013 8:14:29 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in on your feet than it is to live as on your knees.)
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To: Leaning Right
Obama is in power not by coup, but by the ballot box.

Just one more thing 0bama has in common with Hitler.

54 posted on 05/11/2013 8:17:43 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Ouderkirk
Think about that for a while and honestly tell me that there will be a cavalry to come in and rescue those patriots willing to take a stand or will they be just another David Koresh style take down.

Bingo. You had better believe the next "revolution" will be a David Koresh style take down.

The rebels of 1776 had one-third of the population solidly behind them, one-third of the population ready to risk life, limb, and fortune.

The rebels of 1776 also had a powerful and effective foreign ally, France.

The fantasy "rebels" of 2013 have neither of these advantages. They are nothing but targets for a federal government that can be extremely effective when it wants to be.

55 posted on 05/11/2013 8:19:33 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: popdonnelly
Yes, most people on this site are quite aware of what Civil War will entail, and many freepers are prepared. It's not going to be pretty in any way, but it will be necessary to restore this country to a path that is viable for long term existence.

Many here won't be ready for the unbelievable brutality involved, nor will most acknowledge to themselves just exactly how vicious we will have to be to win against the enemy forces that will be opposing us, but most will fight instead of capitulating as the alternative is unbearable.

56 posted on 05/11/2013 8:19:44 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We lost this war in the 50’s and 60’s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5gnpCqsXE8g


57 posted on 05/11/2013 8:24:54 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: SoConPubbie

....”there’s two sets of laws in this country:

One for the Political Ruling class, and another for the rest of us.”....

And the same for the International Stage....”people” are simply the pawns and revenue bank on their gameboard...none of the leaders care too beans about the people of any nation. They play on the gameboard “above” the people.


58 posted on 05/11/2013 8:25:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: Leaning Right; Ouderkirk
The fantasy "rebels" of 2013 have neither of these advantages. They are nothing but targets for a federal government that can be extremely effective when it wants to be.

And yet I would dare say that most of those "fantasy rebels", as you so deridingly and mockingly state, will shoulder weapons if it comes right down to it, inexperience and all.

The real question would be if you will still be on the sidelines smirking and mocking, or if you will have the courage of your convictions.
59 posted on 05/11/2013 8:27:21 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Probably because conservatives have both standards and Principles, both of which the left doesn't have.

Oh, yes, I agree with you 100%. Conservatives vote for principles. Liberals vote for daydreams, and for pie-in-the-sky promises.

Romney wasn't even a real Republican

Again we agree. He was not a Republican and certainly not a conservative. But he was also not a race-card-playing socialist.

60 posted on 05/11/2013 8:28:21 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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