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To: ravager
Nothing even comes close? How about slavery of African peoples by people in the Middle East (which still exists today), or by other Africans? How about slavery in the Orient? The Mongols took millions of slaves, and butched them by the thousands when reentering Mongolia. The Chinese had slavery over thousands of years. How about eunuchs? The etymology of the word “Slave” is “Slav” because Slavic people were thought to make good slaves. The Romans had so many slaves that the idea of them wearing a distinguishing mark was discarded because they didn't want them to know their own potential military power.

As far as the race card.... why don't you go back to the posted article or the post I was replying to? The writers discounted any criticism of the Caste system as creeping Western Imperialism and anti-Hinduism. As if attacking anyone who is critical of a backwards idea is a legitimate defense of that idea itself. I wonder where they could have come up with such an asinine idea or tactic?

As to what in your comment I didn't like -

First I found it's premise fundamentally flawed - that I was somehow unable to comment on backwards and harmful systems that were being ADVOCATED because of a backwards and harmful past of Western Civilization that has almost entirely been DISCARDED.

Second I found it factually challenged in that the things you mentioned were not fundamentally the province of Western Civilization (or white people) and did NOT all come before enlightenment ideals of personal liberty and individualism. That those ideals did not come to full flower in Western civilization until recently doesn't mean that the ideas were not forcefully being applied and advanced by those who advocated for those ideals.

45 posted on 05/09/2013 11:56:02 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
“The Romans had so many slaves that the idea of them wearing a distinguishing mark was discarded because they didn't want them to know their own potential military power.”

Remind me, what skin color were the Romans again?

“How about slavery of African peoples by people in the Middle East (which still exists today), or by other Africans? How about slavery in the Orient? The Mongols took millions of slaves, and butched them by the thousands when reentering Mongolia. The Chinese had slavery over thousands of years. “

All of those simply pales in size and geographic expanse of slave trade by white people. All of the African population in the Americas, West Indies, South Americas was the result of slave trade. All of West Africa, Congo, Chad, Senegal, Niger were reduced to human slave harvesting colonies. Large swathes of American continent and African continent ran on slave trade economy. Read up on the “Rubber regime” and “Crimes of Congo” under King Leopold of Belgium who would amputate the limbs of children for not meeting the quote of rubber extraction. The stories of slavery in Africa under Europeans were far more horrific than even US.

74 posted on 05/09/2013 2:08:54 PM PDT by ravager (I)
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