[publius911]

As with everything else, the idiots in society endanger the natural and civil rights of every other member.
Leaving a firearm and ammunition within the reach of a unattended 5-yr-old is, or should be a jail time offense --- whether anyone is killed or not.

But I suppose if those same idiots have the "right" to vote, it's no big whoop to lose a life now and then.

For the idiots among us, that does not only apply to firearms.

[Secret Agent Man]

only idiots believe that the solution to preventing nutjob murderers is to disarm all the law abiding gun owners.

you cant stop bad guys by disarming all the good guys.