“There’s a big difference between acknowledging that some people still continue to question whether Obama was born in the US (which is entirely true, thanks to an ongoing parade of charlatans and birther propagandists), and acknowledging that there’s a LEGITIMATE question.”
True, but you are either mistaken of deliberately attempting to deceive FReepers because that is NOT what she said.
Liley is NOT talking about SOME PEOPLE questioning where Barry was born, as you erroneously claim, she makes a DECLARATIVE statement of personal belief that there still IS a question.
Not only does she employ the declarative, she is EMPHATIC in REITERATING that there IS A QUESTION about where Barry was born and that the existence of that QUESTION is a FACT.
Liley is taking a stand as a SECRET BIRTHER and she clearly explains why, if you listen carefully!
Here is the transcript again:
Liley: “...to run for president you have to be born in the U.S. For many other offices you don’t have to, but that office you do have to be born in the U.S. And there still IS a question about whether he IS, and that IS a FACT!”
It is on the tape at 2:00 minutes.
Liley is NOT talking about SOME PEOPLE questioning where Barry was born, as you erroneously claim, she makes a DECLARATIVE statement of personal belief that there still IS a question.
No, she isn't.
And it's clear she's not putting forth her personal belief. It's clear that her personal belief is that Obama was born in the US. In fact, she compares discussing whether Obama was born in the US to discussing whether the earth is flat.
Let's have a full transcript here:
So this funder said to us, you know, we would like to support your environmental coverage, but we really don't want to give you money if you're going to talk to the people who think that climate change is not happening.
Now you know, it -
(Indistinct)
Right.
Male voice: ...with the public, (indistinct), it is not settled.
Right. Well, it is a complicated thing (indistinct) there's a political question, and there's a scientific question.
Male voice: Right.
And we were talking to him about the support of the Science Desk, and so... you know, we've gone back to the Science Editor to say, how do you plan to cover this? And our coverage, if you look at our coverage, it would say that science coverage has accepted that climate change is happening, and we're covering it. But, in Politics, our Washington Desk might actually cover, should it resurface as a political issue, this debate.
So it's more complicated than saying, I mean, the Obama, where, where was Obama born? In Hawaii, or not? Is he an American citizen, or not? And there was this stunning study that came out which said that 51% of Americans now believe that -
Male voice: 51%? (indistinct)
...believe that Obama was not born in the United States.
Male voice: (indistinct) ...because he spends so much time abroad, I mean, he was just kind of, he grew up in Indonesia, and he, uh -
And, and the Hawaiian governor is trying to change the laws of Hawaii so he can release his birth certificate, which, (indistinct) he's not been able to.
(indistinct)
Well. But we're, we're not covering the birthers. We are not covering them.
Male voice: Well, what..? (indistinct)
So there's a whole movement in the conservative group, about questioning something that Obama has said is a fact: "I was born in Hawaii when it was a United States State." And the group that questions this (indistinct) Uh, I wouldn't, I don't know any who are Democrats, but they are primarily conservative commentators, and all of them question whether Obama is... You know, to run for President, you have to be born in the US. Any other offices you don't have to. But that office you do have to be born in the US. And there's still a question about whether he is, and that is a fact. But I think the challenge in our society now is, we are questioning facts. It's not opinions we're debating. It's what are the facts? Is the world flat? I mean, is that the next question we are going to debate??
Male voice: Climate change!