[rawcatslyentist]

I wouldn't say ever.

God is just.

He will only put up with so much before he has to correct us.

We publicly threw him out of our schools in the 70's, now we are mass slaughtering infant bastard children in the millions. Sexual depravity is being forced upon the children that don't get murdered in the womb. Our national leader is a servant of satanallah.

All we have to do is turn away from this death/sin, and follow Jesus! Obviously there is no other way. History is full of nations falling in exactly the same pattern. Very few have repented. It is still possible. It is an individual decision. Let every one you know it is up the them.

[Yosemitest]

The comes a time when He will no longer drive out the evil from our land.
Have you read The Harbinger: The Ancient Mystery That Holds the Secret of America's Future ?

Read what God says.
Didn't our Heavenly Father, through our Savior tell us...

" thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother."

How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us,
through the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.

Someone once ask, "When is violence for political purposes justified?"...

Thomas Jefferson once said that,
"When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
So, in light of the minor outbreaks of violence we've been seeing lately, I ask
when is it justified?
We have a second amendment to help protect us from the government,
when is it acceptable to take up arms?
At what point does violence become the correct response?

I recommend the following for your valuable time, to ponder... (all 37 pages)

Violence, Nonviolence, and the American Revolution

All things written in the Bible must come to pass,
and we WILL get to the day worse than has ever been.

And this too shall pass...

They hate him that rebuketh in the gate,
and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor,
and ye take from him burdens of wheat:
ye have built houses of hewn stone,
but ye shall not dwell in them;
ye have planted pleasant vineyards,
but ye shall not drink wine of them.
For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins:
they afflict the just,
they take a bribe,
and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.

Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?

"But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you;
then it shall come to pass,
that those which ye let remain of them
shall be pricks in your eyes,
and thorns in your sides,
and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
Moreover
it shall come to pass,
that I shall do unto you,
as I thought to do unto them."

The command I await is...

"Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them".

[Mark17]

I think you are right. Many nations have fallen, very few repented. I don’t see a 2 Chron 7:14 happening here either. Another reason, among many, that I am leaving the country. It is possible, that big time persecution may happen here too.