[Ray76]

The Certificate of Live Birth is certified as a "true copy or abstract"

The Verification Letter (AZ) verifies that the information in WH COLB PDF "matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth". It certifies that "information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used".

The Verification Letter certifies that the vital record on file with HI DOH was used to verify that the WH COLB PDF "matches". Onaka is telling us that the WH COLB PDF is not a true and correct copy, but that the information "matches". In other words the WH COLB PDF is an abstract which omits information.

[Ray76]

The Verification Letter sent to Kansas SOS Kris Kobach.

Note how reference to the WH COLB PDF is enclosed in quotes while the HI COLB on file is not.

Onaka again tells us that the WH COLB PDF is not a true and correct copy. It is certified as a "true copy or abstract". Onaka is telling us the WH COLB PDF is an abstract which omits information.

[Nero Germanicus]

The Hawaii State Registrar’s letters of verification comply with Hawaii statutes and with Federal Rule of Evidence 1005 which states:
RULE 1005. COPIES OF PUBLIC RECORDS TO PROVE CONTENT

The proponent may use a copy to prove the content of an official record — or of a document that was recorded or filed in a public office as authorized by law — if these conditions are met: the record or document is otherwise admissible; and the copy is certified as correct in accordance with Rule 902(4) or is testified to be correct by a witness who has COMPARED it with the original. If no such copy can be obtained by reasonable diligence, then the proponent may use other evidence to prove the content.

[Kenny Bunk]

Ray, in a country where many people own a house, I cannot figure out why more people are not hip to the "abstract" scam the WH and HI tried to pull here.

Every town village and hamlet has a title company. Every title company has a whole bunch'o'people who know the difference between a Title Deed and and an Abstract of Title.

As far as HI goes, I hope one of their dog licenses has more credibility behind it than their birth certificate procedures. In the 60's you could get a BC by having Grandma and a pal swear that you were "born at home," with no attending physician! True enough, except "home" was in Samoa, Hong Kong, The Phillipines, etc., and the birth took place 13 years earlier!