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To: Tau Food

The point that I have made, multiple times, is that the FACTS say the birth-issue has hurt Obama. This goes entirely against your *opinion* that it has helped him. I have asked again & again for you to give FACTS, as opposed to opinion, illustrating how this issue has helped him. You have run away from answering this simple, straightforward question several times. Perhaps this time you will address it directly.


161 posted on 04/10/2013 4:26:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Again, I honestly and sincerely believe that the birther issue hurt the GOP and thus helped Obama in his last two elections. I believe that that proposition is sufficiently obvious to ordinary people that it may be treated as an historical fact. If it helps you, you may limit your use of the word fact to the fact that I believe that Obama benefited from the birther issue. If you wish to get yourself all tangled up in opinion vs. fact or the fact that, as a matter of fact, someone might hold a certain opinion, that's up to you. It might be good for you to get out of the Vattel jungle for awhile and create for yourself another tangled playground. It doesn't matter.

Motive, intent - you know, it's often been argued that no one can prove the motives or intentions of someone else. However, there are folks busy doing that every day in courthouses across America. They believe, as it's been said, that "a person's state of mind is as much a question of fact as the state of his digestion."

It is a fact that I understand your opinion to be that birtherism has been damaging to Obama politically. It is a fact that my opinion differs.

It's really that simple. But, if you wish, go ahead and confuse yourself.

164 posted on 04/10/2013 4:55:38 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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