Buchanan At The Bat: 3 strikes on Iraq, and Pat's out

The Shinbone: The Frontier of the Free Press ^ | March 29, 2013 | Daniel Clark

[dragnet2]

ya never served one single day in the military did ya junior?

[ynotjjr]

Crap, is this John Kerry?? I respect your service Sen/Sec Kerry and since you are a decorated war hero I guess I should not argue with you. Idiot. You are out of ammo, go away, you’re missing the replay of the Rachel Madcow show. They talk your language.

[dennisw]

We went into Iraq on an honest basis. I don’t believe that George Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction that Saddam had. I am amazed that Iraq has turned out half decent and mostly stable, so let us admit some success. But it was not worth all the dead and injured Americans and the trillions spent. Muslims are too crazy to spend a trillion or two on nation building efforts for them.

If we had to go in -— We should have killed Saddam, destroyed his army and killed his Baathist party leaders and left. But none of this nation building bullshit it does not work with crazed Muslims

[fortheDeclaration]

We were right to end Hussein's rule, we should have done it in the first war, but Bush Sr. lost his nerve.

What we did wrong was nation build.

[FES0844]

You are so right.

[Alberta's Child]

I’ll give you a pass on this one because you obviously don’t know a thing about me.

[Alberta's Child]

Bush Sr. never "lost his nerve" in the first war. What happened in 1990 is that his Secretary of Defense astutely pointed out that occupying Iraq would be disastrous for the U.S. I believe he used the term "quagmire" to describe the prospects of the U.S. troops in Iraq. That Secretary of Defense was a guy named Dick Cheney.

In 2003, that same Dick Cheney was the Vice President of the United States, and he telling people that an invasion of Iraq would not be difficult at all. I believe he used the term "cakewalk" in at least one media interview on the subject.

I guess it's not unusual to see men get dumber with age, but not in that age group. I'm still wondering what facts -- if any -- helped changed Mr. Cheney's mind between 1990 and 2003.

[pgkdan]

How in the hell do you assume from my comments that I expected a new crusade? You’re in over your head here...by ANY objective standard Iraq was a complete disaster.

[dragnet2]

ynotjjr: Iraq was a great success

[x]

With the complicity of the liberal media, the anti-Bushies were allowed to paraphrase this as “no weapons of mass destruction,” which is an utter lie. By 2006, no fewer than 500 sarin and mustard gas munitions had been found in Iraq. Also found were empty binary warheads specifically designed to deliver sarin gas, and missiles equipped to deliver those warheads.

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Beginning in 2003, the ISG had uncovered remnants of Iraq's 1980s-era WMD programs. On June 21, 2006 Rick Santorum claimed that "we have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons", citing a declassified June 6 letter to Pete Hoekstra saying that since the 2003 invasion, a total of "approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent" had been found scattered throughout the country.

The Washington Post reported that "the U.S. military announced in 2004 in Iraq that several crates of the old shells had been uncovered and that they contained a blister agent that was no longer active." It said the shells "had been buried near the Iranian border, and then long forgotten, by Iraqi troops during their eight-year war with Iran, which ended in 1988." Wikipedia

[x]

We were right to end Hussein's rule, we should have done it in the first war, but Bush Sr. lost his nerve.

What we did wrong was nation build.

We got into the 2003 because we didn't take out Saddam in 1991. The thinking was we'd get into another war if we didn't take steps to clean things up and put a government in power.