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To: bgill
Yes, that was it. My mistake, he said he is a citizen by birth. Glad I was able to cast a vote his way.

If those are his words, he is 100% wrong. The is a distinct difference between 'by birth', and 'at birth'.

He may have been a US citizen 'at birth', but he may have also been a Canadian citizen at 'at birth', and a Cuban citizen 'at birth'. It is the individual laws of those countries that determine whether or not he is a citizen of that country.

But the phrase 'by birth' means something completely different. It means that the mere act of his birth has made him a citizen, and a law is not required. That is only when a person is a citizen by natural law and a person is a citizen by natural law only when they are born in a country in which their parents are citizens. Are they citizens of that country 'by birth' - naturally, because they can be nothing else.
33 posted on 03/28/2013 3:09:24 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin
Let me ask a simple question of those who believe Cruz is a natural born citizen of the US.

Is he also a natural born citizen of Cuba? Is Cruz also a natural born citizen of Canada?
34 posted on 03/28/2013 3:12:00 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

“....He may have been a US citizen ‘at birth’,but he may have also been a Canadian citizen at ‘at birth’,and a Cuban citizen ‘at birth’. It is the individual laws of those countries that determine whether or not he is a citizen of that country.......”

This is an important point you brought out.

For someone to be president, there should be no possibility that some other country can make a claim as to his citizenship.

That’s why both parents should be u.s. citizens before the child is born; no means of exerting influence.

I.e. the foreign country can’t say to the parents ‘we don’t care whether you’re a resident alien of the u.s, you’re still a citizen of our country


40 posted on 03/28/2013 10:51:39 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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