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To: ROTB
Why would China and Russia want to go through the huge expense and massive naval build up it would take for a land invasion on U.S. soil? Still yet in doing so using a nuke makes no sense whatsoever. Nuking means they don't use the land either. It takes ships lots and lots of ships and planes to move troops.

The war of wars is to take place in Israel and ships will not be needed to move armies there by her enemies. Look at a map and you'll see. The coming treaties will likely be peace treaties with trade a priority. One will proclaim world trade with world peace and world government to oversee it all. A one world monetary system. For pacifying the M.E. nations this will include a treaty with Israel to bring peace likely in exchange for bad concessions {a Palestine homeland etc}. It will include a peace solution. That is the deception.

Once control is gained hell on earth is unleashed to plunder. Where will the U.S. be in all this? Maybe too weak to help due to being cut off from any goods including fuel. Thus we need to protest and get policies that weaken us as a nation changed both morally and fisical including our domestic production capabilities to meet all our own needs not relying on China.

More likely attack would be an economical one with an alliance formed with all oil producing nations. Add to that China simply cutting off our supplies by cutting off exports to the USA. That is a far more likely reality. Not one shot fired and the nation brought to it's knees.

The foreign nations do not attack us because We The People are armed thus making us a major army far beyond our official government funded military.

Several other points. If out forefather who were subjects to the crown had not taken a very huge leap of faith and formed this nation to start with but rather let the king continue to run roughshod this nation would not have been born. Some were righteous or believers and some were not.

I won't deny that our nations moral decline and fall from GOD's protection has possibly already taken place as GOD alone judges all nations. At some point complete anarchy make breakout in the nation. Then it wise to be prepared to act accordingly. We can pray for changed hearts, we can try to change hearts, we also have duty to GOD family and nation. Oh and quite a few have taken oath to protect and defend this nation and her Constitution.

Unrighteous leaders will demand you do unrighteous things. We are not bound in that respect to obey such demands made by them. Nor all we forbidden to resist by any means possible.

It may happen this way or it may not. I believe this to be far more likely than a land invasion from China at least in the next few decades.

Even beyond that judgments come in many forms including natural calamity. Our nation has several huge potentials for that as well from Yellowstone to Madrid Fault System which if another 1811-1812 strings of events happened it would close The Mississippi river and bring huge disasters in food among other things.

One thing I do know and I rely on. GOD is in control. He holds our future. Believers throughout history have been called to arms to defend homeland and ensure the safety of others. For any situation including the Return of Christ we should be ready.

81 posted on 03/18/2013 8:09:51 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Hello cva66snipe -

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

YOU SAID: Why would China and Russia want to go through the huge expense and massive naval build up it would take for a land invasion on U.S. soil? Still yet in doing so using a nuke makes no sense whatsoever. Nuking means they don’t use the land either. It takes ships lots and lots of ships and planes to move troops.

1) Nuking us from their subs means eliminating our nuclear stockpiles and our Army/Navy/Air Force bases, precluding us from retaliating with our own nukes, or defending ourselves. From what I gather, these silos are in the heartland of the USA, not in the population centers. MCAS Miramar is in San Diego, there are other Naval bases in Seattle, etc ...

2) According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout#Short_term “Fallout radiation decays exponentially relatively quickly with time. Most areas become fairly safe for travel and decontamination after three to five weeks.”

So, once we were nuked and EMPd into being defenseless, and then surrendering, they could take their sweet time in bringing troops here to occupy, rape, pillage, kill, etc.

3) Russia is currently the #1 oil exporting nation. They have cash, as does China. Moving troops here to occupy and rape the land of all it’s oil and gold would be an investment once we were subdued.

>The war of wars is to take place in Israel and ships will
>not be needed to move armies there by her enemies.

What nation is Babylon of Revelation 18? I realize it says “city” or “polis” in the Greek, but could it not be the USA itself? Here’s one source I just dug up: http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/america-mystery-babylon-great.htm

Here’s one I’ve known about for while: http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_2.php

YOU SAID: Thus we need to protest and get policies that weaken us as a nation changed both morally and fisical including our domestic production capabilities to meet all our own needs not relying on China.

One of the many reasons I am calling for a Holy Restoration of Christian living, is because of this verse:

PROVERBS 14:34
34 ¶ Righteousness exalts a nation: but sin [is] a reproach to any people.

We ain’t righteous, as I already pointed out at the top of this thread in my original post. So we’re dragged down with debt, poverty, and soft tyranny.

I don’t blame President Obama and the Democrats. They are so obviously unsaved heathen who think God is make believe.

They think God is make believe, because we Christians are not Holy, nor do we collectively trust God to do his part of 2 Chronicles 7:14 if we do ours:

II CHRONICLES 7:14
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

YOU SAID: The foreign nations do not attack us because We The People are armed thus making us a major army far beyond our official government funded military.

To occupy a nation, one needs to only control parts of it, not every square mile. China has the personnel to pick the USA clean like ants on a dead squirrel.

YOU SAID: Several other points. If out forefather who were subjects to the crown had not taken a very huge leap of faith and formed this nation to start with but rather let the king continue to run roughshod this nation would not have been born. Some were righteous or believers and some were not.

We’d be like Canada, worst case scenario. The UK was great because it WAS Christian. We were great because we were also a Christian nation. Here’s the verse:

What joy for the nation whose God is the LORD, whose people he has chosen as his inheritance.
http://bible.cc/psalms/33-12.htm

Liberty of a nation is the product of Godliness, not guns and rebellion. Of all the quotes on this page http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/Q-01-FAMOUS-QUOTES.html the following is my favorite.

“Tell your prince that this Book (the BIBLE) is the secret of England’s greatness”
Queen victoria

YOU SAID: Unrighteous leaders will demand you do unrighteous things.

True, but we are to pray for them, because God can change their hearts, or save them.

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:1-4

Thanks for your time.

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83 posted on 03/18/2013 9:09:38 PM PDT by ROTB (CW2 = nuking & invasion. Pray for repentance, & our leaders. http://holyrestoration.weebly.com)
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